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oombob Special user Canada 843 Posts |
...as a footnote, after I put away my bloggered gimmick... I moved sweatily to my computer and proceeded to somehow completely screw up my monitor settings so I was left with a dark screen that read "NO SIGNAL". Took me two hours to solve this.
I went to bed a bit shaken... woke up this morning, drove to work only to discover that I was leaking transmission fluid all the way. Car is in the shop now... can't be fixed til tuesday. Perhaps I should just keep away from sensitive equipment for awhile. |
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oombob Special user Canada 843 Posts |
And as a final footnote to my footnote...
...the very idea that some people were expecting a card that would float purely on magnetic air seems utterly ridiculous to me. I read the posts from the start. Read the materials generously supplied describing the "Magnetic Lift Platform" and knew what I was getting in advance. Disappointed that I frugged the gimmick.... but certainly not disappointed in the method. Bloody brilliant! |
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Ben Harris V.I.P. The Land Down Under 2126 Posts |
Hi oombob!
Bummer. Have PM'd you with the ultimate fix! Cheers mate Ben
+Inventor of the world famous Floating Match+
+Author: Machinations (Vanishing Inc, 2020)+ EVERYTHING BEN HARRIS |
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Tim Jahn Special user South Florida 911 Posts |
So... So far there are about 12 or 15 people who don't like this (Who actually have it) And 7 or so of them think they were cheated because they want to believe in the existence of real magic and the nonexistence of physics. Sorry to tell you guys but there are a lot more here who actually like the thing and DO NOT think that they were misled at all . I think oombob said it best:
"...the very idea that some people were expecting a card that would float purely on magnetic air seems utterly ridiculous to me". Right on man. that's abut the most sensible thing I've read here in a few days.
Andrew, (ASW)
The effects on the DVD and lecture notes are far beyond your abilities. (They require mastery of the mechanic's grip.) It would only break your heart. Sincerely, Darwin Ortiz.......(This post has got to be in my top 5.) |
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oombob Special user Canada 843 Posts |
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On 2008-05-17 08:19, Ben Harris wrote: Thanks so much Ben... I greatly appreciate this! |
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elierfr Regular user 172 Posts |
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On 2008-05-17 09:04, Tim Jahn wrote: Hi, I don't like the way you talk about people who have been desapointed. Personnaly I still haven't received enlightment but I've been deceived because Ben Harris let beleive that we can see under the card, that the spectator can take the card, that we can do the effect on the video with the props we buy (and not with another bigger magnet) It isn't a review but I just express my desapointment. I wait to receive the trick to make my review (if it difere to the reviews allready made) I use to work as a pro on magic, now I work on marketing. I know how to make an ad, and how to play with the limit of the truth in an ad. When I read the ad of Mr Harris it let beleive some wrong things... I'm sure the product is good, perhaps very good but the AD ISN'T FAIR Some can buy a trick for a reason , and onther person for another reason... The reasn I've bought this trick : I will not be able to accomplish them, so I don't think I'll use this. It is rare when I mke a mistake on an magic trick!! That's why the review are important!!!! It is a bad review, you should respect the opinion of the author of this review. You like the product : you make a good review The persons who don't like the product because the ad wasn't fair can also express... |
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The Mac Inner circle 1982 Posts |
Tim Jahn loves to have the last word (the trap is set..cmon Timmy)
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Mercury52 Inner circle Kevin Reylek 2239 Posts |
As I've said in some other threads, I received this on Monday night, and have been playing with it since. It made up the 'quick' version of the floating card, but it's working just fine.
I took the deck to my local shop yesterday afternoon and started showing it around. Keep in mind I was showing this to a room full of magicians, rather than laypeople, but the responses were all positive. I used a very simple presentation. Had someone pick a card, had the card placed on top, card floated up and back down, and was handed out again. Every person I showed it to thought the effect looked great. They loved how smooth and steady the levitation was. Also, I'm no master of steals and ditches, but I had no problems bringing the Paradigm Shifter in and out of play. I was showing this to guys who aren't shy AT ALL about calling out if they catch you on something, and none of them suspected that I was finger palming the Shifter, due to its excellent size and the hand positioning created by Ben. Nobody, on any of the times that I performed it, ever bent down to look underneath the card. They watched it float up and down, and remarked on how good the levitation looked. That was it. Since I'd not had a chance to see this from a spectator point of view yet, I quickly taught a good friend 'how to drive' so that he could perform it for me. He was a master at using it almost instantly, and I did think it looked great. We played with a few different ideas, and overall think there's a lot of potential here. There are definitely some angle issues and audience management things to keep in mind. But overall, you can do this for a fairly sizable group of people who are somewhat close (they don't have to be right up on you though) I can understand where people are disappointed that it's not a true lev that can be peeked at from all angles. But I highly, highly recommend that you install the engine in a deck and try it out a bit before passing final judgment. Based on my experiences yesterday, I can't wait to try this out for some lay audiences!
Kevin Reylek
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Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts |
Kevin, thanks for taking the time to share your views. It helps all of us that are working with Enlightenment.
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been" ..........John Greenleaf Whittier |
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Tim Jahn Special user South Florida 911 Posts |
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On 2008-05-17 14:02, The Mac wrote: Oh come on Big Mac, Don't be like that. If your disappointed in this effect, I feel for you. I know what its like to be disappointed in something that you had high hopes for. Myself, I had high hopes for this and they panned out. Good for me and anyone else who got what they wanted and expected. Not so good for those of you who got it and didn't like it. When Gary posted his original review I was kind of worried as I'm sure a lot of other people were. But in Gary's first post he sited actual concerns with the handling and how the gimmick worked and such. It was only after the fact that things started to take a turn to the "I thought it was an actual floating card, I've been lied to" kind of posts that a few were putting up. So... For the 10 or so of you that in some way read into (or maybe didn't read at all) the materials that were given to you, In such a way that you thought cardboard could float, I simply say, That's one of the craziest things I've ever heard. And I'm not alone in this thinking. But things worked out for the majority of the people who got it as they like it and think its something that they will use. If you got it and you don't like it, I really feel bad for you as I've been there and theres not much that you can do but sell it. If you got it and you thought you were getting real magic or something that could bend the laws of physics, I feel bad for you as well. But in an entirely different way. Everything was spelled out in the boatloads of information we were given about this effect before it even came out. And try to get around it any way you want, But NOTHING ever said that this was a magnetic repulsion levitation. It simply stated that magnets were used. A few of you filled in the blanks entirely differently than most did. Is that Ben's fault? Maybe yes and maybe no. Maybe yes for telling us so much in the first place and maybe no for telling us as much as he dared without giving it all away. Anyway Big Mac, Mr. anonymous pants, As for my last word, This is it. If you want to continue this conversation, PM me. I've got so, so many better things to do than waste my time on this Review/speculation/I believe in fairies, Thread. For the record. I got enlightenment. I've used it a few times so far but not much, And I love it. People flip if you put a good presentation behind it like Chris K's. (by the way, Thanks Chris for the idea) It was exactly what I thought I was getting and the method is brilliant. Its not real magic, But nothing that you will ever buy will be. When the private forum goes up for this effect courtesy of Ben, Maybe I'll talk to some of you there. Last word, TIMMY
Andrew, (ASW)
The effects on the DVD and lecture notes are far beyond your abilities. (They require mastery of the mechanic's grip.) It would only break your heart. Sincerely, Darwin Ortiz.......(This post has got to be in my top 5.) |
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oombob Special user Canada 843 Posts |
Think about this thing a bit. Ben has devised an utterly unique gimmick that performs a marvelous function when a simple magnet is brought in to it's air space.
Floating card? Perfect application. The mind begins to swim with thought... could there be other magical applications of this principal? The answers will come down to the mind that is doing the thinking and the swimming ability of the thoughts. Maybe I could apply this principal to a self opening box?... or perhaps use it to remotely throw off the balance of an object?... or perhaps have a card reveal itself by magically flipping over?.... hmmmmm....hmmmmmm. Ben has opened the pool... time to dive in. |
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The Mac Inner circle 1982 Posts |
Tim, Im happy for you that you like the effect.Many here don't like it because they feel they have been mislead. It doesn't matter how "insane" you think their perceptions were because the creator built those claims with false statements.They are unhappy because it didn't deliver and hard earned cash was lost.They should be able should state their story without being ridiculed.
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digiquick Regular user Sydney 114 Posts |
This lifting devise activated by a magnet is well made, great packaging - Would loved to have seen a DVD with it - I think the Magnets overpriced but the unit is in a price range that is acceptable - I am actually selling at a lower price than most people and am telling customers that if it is not what they expect I will accept returns - So far no returns,
Just make it up before passing judgement and try it - Some people I suspect will love it others will hate it like a hole in the head |
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todsky Inner circle www.magicstore.ca 2354 Posts |
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For centuries magicians have tried to tame the ever elusive "magnetic sweet-spot"-the point between two magnets where repulsion and attraction balance. In theory, if the interaction could be controlled, it would be possible to suspend an object at this point, resulting in a truly magical moment. Hate to say this Tim jahn, but despite your relentless hostility and accusations of stupidity towards people here who expected a magnetic levitation, this bit of ad copy (which you keep ignoring) makes you look a bit, well, not too bright?
Todsky's Magic Shop: over 15,000 tricks, books, DVD s and Card decks. www.magicstore.ca
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2008-05-18 08:43, todsky wrote: Just think this needs to be re-quoted, again.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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adamc Regular user Sydney, Australia 138 Posts |
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On 2008-05-15 22:09, Ben Harris wrote: No, I haven't read the book. I just received my package the other day and my dealer has kindly allowed me to return it for a full refund, so it's already been sent back. I really did want to open the package and play around with it, but then I wouldn't have been able to return it. Like I mentioned earlier, the main reason I purchased this effect was due to the fact that it was stated that the spectator can take the card while it's floating in mid air. I believed this to be a very strong part of the effect. After it came to light that this simply isn't practical, I decided that Enlightenment wasn't right for me. Now, it does sound like a very clever method, and perhaps it could've been something that I'd actually end up using and loving, but after hearing some of the drawbacks, it just seemed like it was more than likely to end up in my back drawer than become part of my repertoire. I based my decision to return this on what others on this forum wrote. So perhaps with the right audience management and presentation, you could actually get the spectator to take the card in mid-float, although from the sound of it, most people mentioned that this would not be something they'd attempt. After reading this, I decided that returning it would be the best option for me. Good luck to all those that purchased this. I'm sure despite the misleading and misinterpreted information that it's still a great effect. Adam |
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bosque Loyal user 279 Posts |
Well, I initially had some reservations about this, what with all the hype and all, but after owning this for a week, I have to say I'm using the heck out of this thing. It's very cool to play with let alone perform. The rise , once you get the feel of it, is super smooth; just like you'd imagine an actual levitation would be. I've done this at least a dozen times for spectators and it never fails to get a smile at the very least. An earlier post suggested having the spectator touch fingertips together with your own to perform the rise. I've been doing this and it works really well. I've been won over and am actually ordering another one. Who would've thunk?
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oombob Special user Canada 843 Posts |
I've bought a lot of crappy un-workable magic in my life. Particularly in the field of making a playing card float or move on it's own power. This Enlightenment thing is something I have been waiting for, for a very long time... a remote control, threadless card float that actually works.
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oombob Special user Canada 843 Posts |
The floating dollar bill using IT is just a fanatastic effect. Do you let your audience members grab the bill while it is floating? No. That is because you are excercising audience control.
Enlightenment is angle sensitive and also requires audience control. To me, very acceptably so. Create the proper conditions in a natural manner. Let the audience member choose a card from the deck and sign it. Lower a volunteer's outstretched hand to waist level if all are standing around. Place the deck in their outstretched palm and instruct them to place their face up signed card on the deck in their hand. If you have a nice sized PK'er concealed under your belt buckle area, you merely need to step in closely with free hands gesturing around the floating card and everything remains under your control. The signed card can be grabbed away at the end and a miracle has been performed. |
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Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts |
Well, I performed it for my girl. I don't' perform for family and friends, but She loves magic and has quite the critical eye ( she gives a quick thumbs down if she isn't fooled or entertained ). She's helped me many times with routining.
OK, I have been setting her up for this as I have been practicing moving the card on my own. She thinks I'm trying to do something that can't be done. Well, I told her I solved the problem. I can't do it on my own because it takes a combined energy. I told her to take any card ( face up ) it doesn't matter which one. She held the deck in her outstretched hand. I held my hand up, paradigm finger palmed, with my index finger extended and told her to do the same. Our hands mirrored each other. I then told her to touch her finger with mine and we slowly moved towards the card and it floated up. I immediately said "now let's move away" and the card went down. She just looked at me for a couple of seconds and said "please tell me this is a trick". I said if it was a trick I would have held the deck. She asked me two more times tonight and then said she'd rather not know. I can't imagine this being any different for strangers. But, I'll post when I've performed it. A couple of things I feel that I won't do that the instructions have. I wouldn't let them shuffle the deck. I wouldn't let them "think of a card" and then if they think of one they can't have, make a joke. Either force the card or let them choose one face up, but guide them in doing it quickly telling them the card doesn't matter. I feel Enlightenment is a winner. Others may have a different opinion, but before you sell it or shove it in the drawer, perform it and see how you feel.
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been" ..........John Greenleaf Whittier |
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