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vennom
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I saw this effect where the magician brings out a jigsaw block puzzle and messes it up and is able to assemble it back to a rectangular shape.THE REAL MAGIC begins when the magician introduces another piece of jigsaw block but he is able to arrange the jigsaw blocks back into the same rectangular shape.he then introduces another piece of jigsaw block and yet is still able to rearrange the jigsaw blocks back into the same rectangular shape.

the size of the puzzle remains the SAME even though he added in two extra pieces.

can anyone tell me the name of this effect and where can I obtain it.it would help greatly.thank you!
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It's a popular topological puzzle, but I don't know the exact name of it. Doc Eason performs it on one of his DVDs. It can be played several different ways, either adding or removing pieces but with the same outcome. You might be able to find out more by expanding your search to puzzle sites. It's loosely related to the famed "Leprechaun" puzzle where you rearrange the picture pieces only to find one of the Leprechauns is now gone.

Here's a triangle version of the same puzzle:

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I had one many years ago made by Jerry Somerdin. It was a dollar bill that when you turned it over, there was always a piece missing,
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Check the works of Sam Lloyd from about a century ago. Dover has reprints of his material.
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Vennom,


Since you spoke of rectangular dimensions, you may have seen someone with Winston Freer's Puzzle/trick. I think John Rogers of Wooden Cigar fame still sells them on his website.

Yep . . .

http://www.woodencigars.com/wftp.html

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That's the one I remember! Thanks for finding it.
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Hey people thanks for your replies but it still is not what I'm looking for.the link below will show a video with the effect being performed inside.its a taiwanese variety show with a guest magician performer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRAwAzFV3fk

it starts at 2.55

I hope I can hear more from you guys!thanks!
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Same kind of puzzle, different maker. The green marble looks like the one Doc used. He's a member here, maybe you can ask him where he got it.
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It is indeed the Winston Freer tile puzzle sold to me by John Rogers... of the wooden cigar fame...

It is pricey but I love it..

You show a frame with a bunch of pieces in it that form a grid.. you remove a piece 3 times and the thing is exactly the same size.. a fooler dooler if ever there was one.

check with John.. he may still have some.

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Just watched the japanese thing.. he *adds* three pieces to the puzzle and the Freer thing *removes* three pieces..

The Japanese thing is NOT John Rogers. But probably works the same way...

I thought I saw something when he first disassembled the thing.. I think he did the secret thing in the moving of the pieces...

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Anyone know the name of the japaness version?
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This is a German trick called "Merlins Zaubertrunk," which means Merlin's Magic Drink. I translated this for Joe Stevens and Harold Voit as Merlin's Magic Elixir.

The trick has a mechanical component that takes care of a lot of the trouble for you.

I think Takeshi Nemoto was selling these in Japan, because he contacted me to find out where to get them.
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Can't see the whole show but the last piece being square is (certainly) the old tangram that was used as an advertisement. The pieces were sent one at a time with the instructions to assemble the coming N pieces into a square and win a prize. Once you had N-1 of the pieces you could do this. Then when you arrived to show that you had solved it, they would throw you the Nth piece, a square, and you would be stumped. At least that's how Jay described it.

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You are at a disadvantage here. There is a mechanical component to the trick that is not present in the original versions. And it is difficult to spot if it is done correctly.

I knew what this was the moment I saw the photo of the prop at the beginning of the show. I watched it anyway, just to see whether I was right.

I misspelled the German name. It is Merlins Zaubertrank. I don't think it is still avaialable from Voit, but Stevens still lists it.

http://www.stevensmagic.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=2586
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Danke scho:ne.
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Hard to do umlauts in this editor, isn't it! Try danke schoen.
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I love the sound effects and all the poping text, animations and all that .. Imagine Derren Brown performing on Taiwaneese Tv :-D
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Anyone know which of Doc's DVD's it is on? I searched the trio from L&L but none of the descriptions stood out as this effect.

Thanks, in advance, for the help!

David
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Sid Lorraine had a version where the puzzle pieces were pieces Egyptian hieroglyphics. The instructions had it as a "vanishing" piece: the pieces make a puzzle, but upon remixing and reassembling, there is a piece which is in your wallet (or wherever). He marketed it as a sort of packet trick for a few dollars way back when.
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David,
It's on Doc's "...after all these years..." DVD (available from him). It's very entertaining.

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