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lesterkirad
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MAGIC is a more casual read if you wanna just sit down and read. Genii is more in depth and has more substance.
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Ok, I have got the latest copy of genii and i think its pretty good. However it's mainly in black and white which can get a bit boring, are there any major differences between it and magic in contents and presentation?
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I used to be split as to which I preferred. I liked Bob Farmer's Flim Flam column, and I really liked Racherbaumer's section on effects, but I always seemed to get more out of Genii. Also, I fall into the pro-Jamy Ian Swiss camp. I look forward to his reviews, especially when he doesn't like something. Now that Farmer is no longer doing his column, and The Rock is at Genii, it's no contest. If I had to choose, it'd be Genii by a wide margin.

This is not to cast aspersions on Magic, which is a fine magazine. I look forward to Michael Close's reviews as eagerly as those by Swiss, and I think Joshua Jay is doing a good job, although I don't think he has quite yet found his voice, so to speak.

As for stage magic, yes, Magic does seem to be more focused on the subject, but I think you'll find that Genii--thanks largely to Paul Osborne--is printing more information on the mechanics of such effects.

A Note to Tricky: Spelling and punctuation are our friends. Use them. I can't even figure out what you are asking.

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Well, I'm certainly NOT sending a copy of my book to Jamy for review. Smile
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I'm in the Genii camp, although I love both magazines. I agree that Genii is the more thoughtful, and thought-provoking of the two and often notice, as a self-avowed beginner, that reading Magic tends to make me go "Wow! Cool!" while Genii is more apt to make me go, "Hmmmm."

As for Swiss, there are times I am certain he is dead wrong -- yes, there are areas in which even a beginner can make that assertion Smile -- but he brings scholarship and sound thinking to his reviews and I greatly appreciate it. He's also funny as beejeebers and I hope I never ever ever have to perform in front of him or produce anything he'll review.

All that being said, this last issue was a slip backwards. Way too many of the feature article layouts looked instead like bad advertising. Still, I appreciate their experimenting. I just hope they're able to tell which experiments didn't work out.
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This reminds me of the "Ginger vs. MaryAnne" debate (MaryAnne, of course).

I have a limited exposure to Magic, so any comparisons on my part are useless. However, I just recently began getting Genii after not subscribing for several years and WOW, issues coming early? I remember in the 70s issues coming which said "April 1973 (published in August 1973)." It's come a long way since I subscribed before. I really like it! They say Magic is more flashy and eye appealing, but the current Genii is far more visually appealing than in days gone by.
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Having subscribed to both, Genii and Magic, I have decided to drop Magic. Like many of you, I subscribe to a number of periodicals but one should consider "how much bang for my buck?" Magic has recently gone through a number of "management" changes (editor, column writers, etc.) and, unfortunately, the new folks aren't my cup of tea. So my personal preferences dictate my decision.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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Strong opinion, there Richard...

Not to suck up or anything now that you are here also - but I also vote (with my money) on Genii. It is truly a literary and literate approach to magic, it's history, performance, art and substance. For me it's "The National Geographic," "People," and "Variety" of magic magazines...with a dash of "The Toys R US" catalog...now if only Richard would mix in a little "Victoria's Secret..." <S>
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Well, any magic from the latter part of the 1800s would be "Victorian Secrets" ... will that do? Smile
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To be short and sweet my vote is for Genii...

Have fun reading magic magazines...

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I Like both, But if I had to pick one I think I'd pick Genii

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I subscribe only to MAGIC at the present time, but you fokls have me sold on trying Genii again.Thanks for the insightful information.

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I like Genii. MAGIC is a nicer product. Mike Close is a great reviewer, and I prefer the idea of one person doing the reviews of all things magical as opposed to six or seven people. I really lke Genii- but for some reason, I buy MAGIC every month- I buy Genii when the cover features someone I like.
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I prefer Genii - the articles are generally more eclectic and interesting. (I go to sleep reading multi-page reviews of stage showszzzzzzz....).

I suspect that Kaufman's personal views overly influence his editorial input (especially in the review section).

If you can, get both mags. I get MAGIC just for Mike Close's reviews. Any interesting articles are just gravy...

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I read the infos on this toppics and I wnated to subscribe to Genii, but beware....they have a not secured site and want you to give the cradit-card information.

Watch out folks, there can be some magic you dont like....

I now wrote them an email, I wont give my information on a non secure form Smile
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I had just suscribed to geniibefore reading this post , so it sounds like I made the right choice then.
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Genii, especially since the editor's change at MAGIC. Not in the Swiss camp but the other content is better more often. Richard has done an excellent job.

That said, I like MAGIC too and re-upped last month for the umpteenth year.

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I don't subscribe to either. I am an impulse magazine buyer albeit I almost certainly pay extra because of it. The advantage is that I get to preview before purchasing. So I’ve got that going for me, which is nice… Smile (Too much movie watching for me)

I usually pick up Magic. I am not sure why, but I bet if you had to psychoanalyze my reasons a lot would probably have to do with the covers. I like the physical feel and appearance of Magic a lot better.

Anyway, there is my choice. But after reading this thread you can be sure I will take closer looks at Genii from this day forth.
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Actually, after reading the Fechner issue I have to say that one of the dire features of Genii is Kaufman's penchant for multi-page spreads on the latest Tenyo and other toy magic set stuff. I know some people collect this stuff but gimme a break.

Maybe Kaufman has shares in Tenyo? That'd certainly explain it.

Andrew
Whenever I find myself gripping anything too tightly I just ask myself "How would Guy Hollingworth hold this?"

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