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clarissa35f Veteran user 363 Posts |
In a month or so I will have quite a bit of cash in my Magic fund. I was thinking of what to get, and I noticed my DVD library growing but my Books are not. I just bought Strong Magic, and Designing Miracles by Darwin Ortiz.
I am going to get the complete Tarbel Course, after reading all the raves from everyone here. At first I felt it might be dated material, until I remember someone saying.." The effect is so old, it might as well be brand new." < Michael Ammar> I am curious if anyone just happens to know the cheapest site for the whole course as one, as opposed to buying them piecemeal. Another question is. Aside from the books (just books this time) mentioned in the sticky... when discussing Magic Theory, what books are a MUST have for someone wishing to seriously get into Magic? Thanking all in advance...
“Amateurs practice until they get it right.
Professionals practice until they can’t get it wrong.” <Anonymous> "There is no such thing as magic, there is no other way that could have been done" <Whit Haydn> |
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Mithrandir Regular user Long Island N.Y. 111 Posts |
The cheapest I've seen it (NEW) is $179 + $10 shipping - Ebay. Gorilla magic is selling the set. Some times there is a used set on there, but it usually comes close to that price anyway. Ebay search it (Tarbel 8).
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BCS Inner circle 1083 Posts |
Clarissa35f,
Other than used, as I poke around the web I am not finding much of a difference in cost from site to site. The Tarbell books seem to be in abundance new and most people keep them. As far as other books go, I would recommend Greater Magic (to me much like the Tarbell books), The Mark Wilson Course In Magic, The New Modern Coin Magic (JB Bobo), more recently The Art of Astonishment (Paul Harris) and the Card College series of books (Roberto Giobbi). There are lots of good books out there used and you would be surprised at some of the gems found in used book store. Thanks, Bruce |
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spatlind Special user still moving 863 Posts |
I recently picked up "Scripting Magic" by Pete McCabe and believe I will treasure it for a long time to come. You'll find a review on here if you search it.
Scott
Actions lie louder than words - Carolyn Wells
I believe in God, only I spell it Nature - Frank Lloyd Wright. |
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pradell Special user Alaska 560 Posts |
You can purchase the CD version of the Tarbell course. Check out http://www.lybrary.com
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erlandish Inner circle Vancouver, Canada 1254 Posts |
I know this doesn't answer the original question, but unless money is no object, I'd hold off on the complete set of Tarbell for the moment. Maybe the first volume, if you're intent on getting into the set. The suggestion for getting Mark Wilson's complete course is probably wiser if you're factoring economics into the equation.
Probably the best aspect of Wilson is that after trying some of the stuff out in it, you can figure out what excites you, and then invest more heavily in that subgenre. I can think of a bunch of must-have books, but unless you know your focus, they wouldn't be of any use. |
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mrunge Inner circle Charleston, SC 3716 Posts |
While the CD version is a fantastic resource, and at a great price, it's not the entire 1 - 8 volume "book course." Instead, it's a copy of the original 60 lesson mail order course that Harlan Tarbell wrote himself.
Mark. |
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clarissa35f Veteran user 363 Posts |
Have Mark Wilson's Complete Course. And Giobbi Card College Vol 1-4. Bobo's Modern Coin Magic, Royal Road, and Expert card technique. Also Strong Magic and Designing Miracles by Darwin Ortiz.
But I am noticing that there are holes in my fundamentals. I am considering either Harry Lorayne's Apocalypse Vol 1-3. ( or is it 1-20?)or Tarbell. Not sure which all I Know is I can afford one...or the other, then maybe in a few months I can get the other... but unsure which for now. Or I may just go with the CD version. As to focus I Know I want to do cards, maybe Coins...i KNOW I want to do Close up... Not too hot on mentalism or stage... But I am also interested on IT.
“Amateurs practice until they get it right.
Professionals practice until they can’t get it wrong.” <Anonymous> "There is no such thing as magic, there is no other way that could have been done" <Whit Haydn> |
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sethb Inner circle The Jersey Shore 2719 Posts |
I agree with Erlandish, you don't necessarily need to get the entire Tarbell set all at once. If you picked up, say, just the first three volumes, you would have more than enough magic to keep you busy for quite a while. Then you can get the remaining volumes as time and money permit. Something tells me that the Tarbell Course is not going out of print anytime soon!
On the other hand, if you want the Course as a reference, then by all means get the entire set, it's a great investment that will pay dividends for a long time. As I've said before, the patter in Tarbell is often dated, but that's irrelevant because any magician worth their salt will come up with their own presentation and patter. SETH
"Watch the Professor!!" -- Al Flosso (1895-1976)
"The better you are, the closer they watch" -- Darwin Ortiz, STRONG MAGIC |
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clarissa35f Veteran user 363 Posts |
Hmmm... thanks for the wonderful advice... I think I'll get the first 3 volumes of Tarbell, and get The first Volume of Apocalypse... and yes, I do eventually want them all, as reference.. mainly since I see a lot of magicians here tend to explain what they mean by referencing effects in it. it has become sort of a form of shorthand. And sometimes I feel left out dammit grrrr....
“Amateurs practice until they get it right.
Professionals practice until they can’t get it wrong.” <Anonymous> "There is no such thing as magic, there is no other way that could have been done" <Whit Haydn> |
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csantill New user 97 Posts |
Hi,
I was able to get an almost complete set (Vol 1-7) on e-bay for $75.00 (+ $10 shipping) usually there are two or three sets available at the time. If you are patient you should be able to get one at the price you like. Good luck |
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jcards01 Inner circle Waterloo, IL 1438 Posts |
Also, consider the book "Stars of Magic". Some great all-around close-up in this book and it is not that expensive.
Jimmy 'Cards' Molinari
www.jimmycards.com |
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sethb Inner circle The Jersey Shore 2719 Posts |
By the way, congratulations clarissa35f, on your good taste in picking up "Strong Magic" by Darwin Ortiz.
As you know, it's not a book of tricks, but a book about presentation and technique. In my opinion, his suggestions and tips will make your tricks 200% more impressive and lots more bulletproof. Read On! SETH
"Watch the Professor!!" -- Al Flosso (1895-1976)
"The better you are, the closer they watch" -- Darwin Ortiz, STRONG MAGIC |
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JohntheMagician Regular user Mechanicsburg, PA 157 Posts |
Ouch $179... For Tarbell. While it is really worth a lot more
Try here: http://magicvault.net/store/index.php?ac......uctId=58 $163 and some change Easier on the pocket & It's where I get a lot of my stuff. Much to the wife's dismay:)
“The hard must become habit. The habit must become easy. The easy must become beautiful.” ~ Doug Henning
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BCS Inner circle 1083 Posts |
Clarissa35f,
If I understand your post correctly that you want to go the way of close-up… my suggestions would be (based on books I keep going back to): The Classic Magic of Larry Jennings- Mike Maxwell The Art of Close-Up Magic Volumes 1& 2- Lewis Ganson Close-Up Card Magic –Harry Lorayne (great starter) The Magic Book- Harry Lorayne (one of the best courses in magic) Coin Magic- Richard Kaufman I would also recommend staying with books rather than DVDs. I am in the CE business, in the not to distant future DVDs will be history. Thanks, Bruce |
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
Take it from me - the 4-volume set of APOCALYPSE contains MUCH BETTER close-up magic. My opinion, folks. HARRY LORAYNE. (Purchase from me, and I'll try to give you a "best buy.") HL
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
http://www.harrylorayne.com http://www.harryloraynemagic.com |
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clarissa35f Veteran user 363 Posts |
I want to thank everyone for all the helpful replies... I think I will go with getting the First 3 Tarbell, and Apocalypse Vo1, then work from there...
“Amateurs practice until they get it right.
Professionals practice until they can’t get it wrong.” <Anonymous> "There is no such thing as magic, there is no other way that could have been done" <Whit Haydn> |
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kentfgunn Inner circle Merritt Island FL 1639 Posts |
Clarissa,
You said there were holes in your fundamentals. Don't buy any more books. Study the ones you have. Money doesn't buy proficiency at magic. Between the Giobbi books and Bobo's book on coins, you've a solid ten years of study ahead of you, probably more. If you did nothing but the tricks in the first two Giobbi books and half of what is in Bobo and did them well, you'd easily be a world class magician. Tarbell is full of wonderful ideas. I have all of the issues of Apocalypse and both sets of books look lovely on the shelf. You'll never get to them. Don't bother with those two books you mentioned by Mr. Ortiz, just yet. If you've given them a read, put them up for now. You'll like them much better a bit later. Now quit wasting your time on the Café, get out four half dollars and open up New Modern Coin Magic. C'mon, you want to be a better magician? Read, study, practice and rehearse . . . KG |
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John Long Inner circle New Jersey 2826 Posts |
Books are a great resource of information, and on a per trick basis, much cheaper than DVDs.
I think it is a wonderful idea to get the whole Tarbell series at once - you will save some money, and get to see a wide variety of magic. From that variety, you will get to learn what you like to do (but Wilson's book will also accomplish that), and have a wonderful resource for future efforts. To get the best price, buy used, try to get on Paul Diamonds used magic e-mailing. With the discounts he gives, you might get a price around $100-120 for the 8 volumes. I think I got most of my books new from Daytona Magic(I think). They seemed to have the best new price. "Take it from me - the 4-volume set of APOCALYPSE contains MUCH BETTER close-up magic. My opinion, folks. HARRY LORAYNE. (Purchase from me, and I'll try to give you a "best buy.") HL" That's an interesting statement - Harry was the author/editor of at least parts of the Tarbelll series. Which makes me ask Harry, why? and where can I get a description of the Apocolypse volumes? As far as the CD version of Tarbell, be aware that they are not the same as what you will get in the books. The CD version will be more easy to search; they contian the origial mail-order Tarbell course, but there are a lot of things in the books that are not in the electronic version. Yet, the price is a fraction of what the books cost.
Breathtaking Magic;
Not Breath Taking |
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
John Long: How does one describe twenty years of fantastic magic? Please! Check out some of forums herein. And you ask "why?" Because, as you say, I know what I'm talking about. Who knows APOCALYPSE and TARBELL better? I did the complete index for all seven volumes of Tarbell (8 hadn't been done yet)and I wrote and edited Vol. 7. HL
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
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