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matt kemp
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About a year ago I made a magic table by putting a board on top of a folding table and I covered it with black velvet. Later I realized that this table is way too short because I have to sit at the table while doing magic.

Now I would like to practice and perform standing, so I need to make a new table. I know I could make a half-decent table top, but I would like to buy the table stand. On The Ambitious Card, Frank recommends buying a stand from http://www.musiciansfriend.com . Does anyone know which stand I should buy? Are there other websites that I could buy a stand from? I would like my table to be 36" to 38" in height.

I know that some people do really nice custom table work, but right now I don't want to spend hundreds of dollars on a table unless I have to spend that much to get a functional table.
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If you want an X-style table stand, bear in mind that the higher you make the X, the narrower the stand top will be. On the stands that advertise that they are adjustable from 27" to 39" in height and 11" to 31" in width, the 11" width is what you get at 39" of height. If your table top is much more than 23" wide, then you may have a problem with sideways wobble, because if the CG of the table top gets outside the footprint of the stand, it may tip over. Front to back is not a problem.

There is a minimal amount of height adjustment on this stand that is accomplished with some adjusting screws, but other than that, it's pretty limited: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/O......u=450386

If you find this stand suitable, then when you finally find the height you like, fix it up so you can bolt the top of the table to it with wing nuts. I can show you how to do this once you find the stand you like. It will make the whole !@#embly much more rigid than most other methods.

Send me an e-mail. I have something you might be able to use.
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Send Bill the E mail because if that "something" is what I think it is, you'll be happy you did!
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I found this table to be sturdy, and holds a large closeup mat.

I am very happy with it. Not the X-style, but sturdy.

http://www.percussionsource.com/ProductD......d=252201

But e-mail Bill first Smile

John
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The perl percussion tables are excellent... they even have a felt top and a rubber lip all the way around it, plus a sturdy rugged metal design for traveling.

-DJ
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http://www.ablekitchen.com/ProductDetail......=JR-4502

Boy does this look good or what????
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Thanks for all of the replies. Bill, I just emailed you.

I should have stated that I would like a table stand that packs flat so I can transport it and store it. Also, I don't really know what gives tables the best balance. Do people who do magic outside need a really flat surface to put their tables on? Do you need a different table for work outside and work inside?
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Get one of your specatators to get on all fours Smile
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I use the same table in both indoor and outdoor work.
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Bill, thanks for the table plans. Building a table seems like a lot of work!

I'm now considering buying the table from the link that RevJohn posted. Does anyone else have a table like this or a similar one? What do you think of it?
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That's the one I was talking about I think. If its by "pearl" then it is... or at least a similar knock off. The local magic shop has one and its really great. Very sturdy and adjustable base. It is meant for drummers to put next to their drum kits and hold percussion stuff like shakers and sticks. They incorporated the felt top and rubber surrounding lip so things wouldn't slide and fall off from vibrations from the drums or unleveled stages. They are collapsible for easy transport and fully adjustable. Basically, you won't break it... I would hope.

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That one is the one made by pearl. The table unhooks from the base, and packs very flat. But when it is put together, it is very sturdy. I bought a "magic" table a little later for twice the money, and it wasn't nearly as stable.

One really nice thing about this table is the height is adjustable. Helpful... uhhh... I don't really know why, but I thought it was a nice feature!!

I bought the table from the same website I posted above, and the shipping was quick.

RevJohn
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These drum kit stands are good and solid; however, with this kind of stand you do run the risk of accidentally bumping one of the tripod legs. If you do this, you can lose the material on top of the table. Also, if the CG of the table top gets outside of the triangle defined by the feet of the table, you have a "lever and fulcrum" situation on your hands. This cannot happen with what I sent you.

Also, I find the aesthetics of this kind of stand to be lacking.
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On 2008-05-26 20:53, Pete Biro wrote:
http://www.ablekitchen.com/ProductDetail......=JR-4502

Boy does this look good or what????


This is the type of stand I use for each of my tables. They are strong, stable and light weight and available in different heights.
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On 2008-05-27 04:40, Mr. Muggle wrote:
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On 2008-05-26 20:53, Pete Biro wrote:
http://www.ablekitchen.com/ProductDetail......=JR-4502

Boy does this look good or what????


This is the type of stand I use for each of my tables. They are strong, stable and light weight and available in different heights.

I've been using one of these as a stand for my prop case, for kidshows, for over 15 years. It still looks and works great!
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I ended up buying the tripod drum stand last night. It works in my price range and I'm glad I don't have to construct anything. Thanks everyone for all of the input on my decision.
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The down side to a tripod (as Bill mentions every time this comes up) is that the ground has to be level so it doesn't tip over!
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Although that is true, I believe (and I may be wrong) the pearl table has adjustable feet for such problems... I've seen percussion tables with adjustable feet before, not sure if it was by pearl tho. And for 100 bucks I wouldn't expect it.

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Just about anything with three legs will be 'tippy' - this is one reason I never liked Ammar's table.
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I also use a restaurant tray stand:
http://www.instawares.com/mahogany-tray-.......0.7.htm
This one's 38" high, which is a bit too tall, but I replaced the straps so that I could get it shorter--this had the benefit of spreading out the legs and making a more stable setup for my table top.
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