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Found this by accident, and think it's interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s0wibqFfAA
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She's teaching mentalism in an academic setting? Interesting indeed!
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That was interesting to watch.
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This is not a teacher but simply a student delivering a presentation on mentalism.
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Interesting. Better than the first in-class presentation I gave, way back when. Mine was for a archaeology class, and I should have been buried and forgotten for a thousand years after. I was awful.

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I liked her closing remarks regarding mentalism vs. hypnosis.
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Interesting to see that she points out the bowl, the fact that info is written down, the fact that many things are guesses and that the guesses/mistakes are forgotten about.

Most importantly for me - Channing presents his shows as real demonstrations of esp. she was featured in his Q&A segment. She was amazed/impressed. She got onto Google. And now she says, "it's all tricks."
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I think it's important that we never sell it as real. This all goes back to giving your audiences credit - they are not stupid people. So, have fun with it. It can be as realistic as possible, but in the end, make sure you perform for entertainment.

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I swear that I agree with you SOOO much, but I've heard much better performers than myself tell me that you've got to sell it as real! They've told me that to sell it as just tricks and for entertainment purposes only is robbing the audience of the feeling that you really want them to have.

But, in my heart, I agree with you, Jason. I feel that part of the problem with the 'selling it as real' angle is that the performer usually gets a power trip, so much power that he cannot handle it, and he begins to behave differently, on and offstage, and especially around other performers.
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It depends what your 'real' is.

If your real is some form of higher ability that god gave you and none of the other mere mortals sitting in your audience, you will some day encounter a problem.

If your 'real' is heighten psychological responsiveness and an acute ability to understand, interpret, and perhaps even influence the behaviour of others, then I can't see you ever having that much of a serious issue.
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I'll define the word "real" as I consider it when performing. Real is usually defined by your audience.

People already have their minds made up for themselves regarding whether or not they believe in psychic ability. So, to say that you're "real" to people implies that you have been given a "gift", likely supernatural and you would like to demonstrate it for them this evening... and then go into your add-a-no routine and possibly get burnt when they find performers, even guys advertised as magician's performing the same material on the internet.

The girl had it right - "They perform similar or the same things and they use similar or the same gestures." So, why even bother selling yourself as something supernatural.

The other type of real is the "psychological real". I never use this, and mostly thanks to Richard Osterlind's view on this, which is quite simple. Be prepared to explain yourself - sometimes to individual's more knowledgeable than yourself. I for one am not prepared to do that... so why bother?

So, once you've gotten the idea out to your audience that you are not going to make any extraordinary claims... that's when you act real - but having already said that it's for entertainment - you're in the clear and everyone can have a much better time.

Jason.
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On 2008-06-02 12:51, jasons_mind wrote:
I'll define the word "real" as I consider it when performing. Real is usually defined by your audience.

People already have their minds made up for themselves regarding whether or not they believe in psychic ability. So, to say that you're "real" to people implies that you have been given a "gift", likely supernatural and you would like to demonstrate it for them this evening... and then go into your add-a-no routine and possibly get burnt when they find performers, even guys advertised as magician's performing the same material on the internet.

The girl had it right - "They perform similar or the same things and they use similar or the same gestures." So, why even bother selling yourself as something supernatural.

The other type of real is the "psychological real". I never use this, and mostly thanks to Richard Osterlind's view on this, which is quite simple. Be prepared to explain yourself - sometimes to individual's more knowledgeable than yourself. I for one am not prepared to do that... so why bother?

So, once you've gotten the idea out to your audience that you are not going to make any extraordinary claims... that's when you act real - but having already said that it's for entertainment - you're in the clear and everyone can have a much better time.

Jason.



Excellent post!

Richard
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