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Theodore Lawton
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Not exactly the best science, but I love this stupid show. Tim's pop rocks post in the other thread got me thinking about some memorable episodes. Here's a couple:

1. The guy who tried to fly in a lawn chair with lots of balloons. Doable and dangerous and just recently a Catholic priest disappeared trying to do this stunt as a fund raiser. Yikes. I feel sorry for him, but that is an almost automatic Darwin award.

2. The guy who farted himself to death. Supposedly he ate too many beans and cabbage and died of the gas in his sleep. Busted

3. Can you get the smell of death out of a car? They left a dead pig in a car for a good while in a storage container out in the sun, then put on hazmat suits and tried to clean it. Disgusting! Television doesn't get much more cerebral than this! Smile

Anyone else like this show? I mean, if you like explosions and/or guns you have to like Mythbusters!

4. Using dynamite to clean a cement mixer. Busted, but what a cool explosion!
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Using dynamite to clean a cement mixer. Busted, but what a cool explosion!


If you're talking about half a cement truck load that has had a chance to harden, then yes, the myth's busted. On the other hand, they did show that dynamite in a truck with traces around the mixing blades was quite doable.

As for the explosion, it is one of the best I've ever seen! First you see the cement truck, now you don't!!! No cloth covering required! Smile


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The guy who farted himself to death. Supposedly he ate too many beans and cabbage and died of the gas in his sleep. Busted


I've heard another variation on this story where the guy supposedly sealed all the doors and windows in his house, ate nothing but beans and cabbage, then gassed himself to death that way!
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But that stupid fey girlie hat is a bit much. I only have so much tolerance for 'reality' TV so I jumped ship on the boys and took up 'Pinks' as a guilty plasure. Smile
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I haven't watched it much lately either as my wife HATES it.

clynim-They tried to seal a small room they constructed and found the amount of methane required was too much and the seal insufficient. What a way to commit suicide!? BTW-where are you in Columbus? I grew up there and in Westerville. I used to live by Cleveland Ave + 161 area. It's gone downhill in the past 20 years!
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4. Using dynamite to clean a cement mixer. Busted, but what a cool explosion!


First, I will apologize for what I'm about to type. It has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but it does involve a HUGE pet peeve of mine. The terms "cement" and "concrete" are NOT interchangeable. The huge rotating drum that discharges a mixture composed of water, aggregates, cement, and admixtures is a CONCRETE mixer, not a cement mixer. Cement is a pozzolanic material that has cohesive properties and is an ingredient in concrete. Concrete is a mixture of cement, aggregates (both coarse and fine), water, and any applicable admixtures (air entraining agent, retarder, accelerator, etc). I spent almost ten years working in research involving cement and concrete mix designs.

If I had seen that episode of MythBusters, they would have gotten a "viewer comment" from me if I had heard them say "cement mixer." I even sent a letter to Tom Clancy (I'm sure he never read it), because one of his books kept saying "cement mixer."

Now, to comment on Myth Busters. I watch the show when I can. I don't seek it out or set my schedule to watch it, but if I'm flipping channels and it's on, I'll watch it.

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So wait a minute.

Concrete contains cement, And a mixer mixes the cement with the other components. So cement mixer is not far off. It IS mixing in the cement, Isn't it? If your thinking in terms of what comes out of the mixer, That's concrete. Not cement. But I could see how the mixer could be called both.

I've been around this stuff for a long time. Since I was a little kid helping my dad and I've heard it both ways. I think that they are both correct.

Anyway, When the term "Cement mixer" is used, Everyone knows whats being talked about.

As far as Mythbusters goes, I do like the show. I'm the same way as Margarette, If I find it flipping through the channels, I'll stop and watch it. They do have some pretty neat stuff on the show.
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On 2008-06-04 12:16, Tim Jahn wrote:
If your thinking in terms of what comes out of the mixer, That's concrete. Not cement.


Interesting.
Would it also be considered "wet cement?"
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Just watched it last night for the first time in a long while. The wife's staying with her mom who just had surgery.

They proved the "myth" of drafting a semi helps improve gas mileage. Pretty much a no-brainer, but I was impressed by the numbers. And Grant drove two feet away from the back of a semi going 55 mph!

The other story was, "will flying debris from a semi tire blow-out take your head off?" lol Time well spent! They built a rubber flinger and; of course, a ballistics gel head complete with a pig spine. They threw a piece of truck tire through a car window and beheaded the dummy. Pretty cool stuff.

My question is, "Why don't they teach science in schools with these methods?" It is interesting, teaches how to form a hypothesis, establish baseline controls and perform experiments. I think lots of kids could benefit from a science course based on these shows. Certainly not college material, but it could work with the younger kids to get them interested in science.

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I don't disagree in principle, but in practice, do you really think the kids will heed the "Don't try this yourself.... ever...." message?

I know as a kid I would not have, nor many of my friends, nor even the kids of my friends today. I'm an adult and at times I try some stuff that should give me a Darwin runner-up ;-)

We need to get em more interested in science but without the Boom, crack, splash or pistol shot.
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On 2008-06-04 12:16, Tim Jahn wrote:
If your thinking in terms of what comes out of the mixer, That's concrete. Not cement.


Interesting.
Would it also be considered "wet cement?"


I don't know. Good question!

Anyway...Most of the people I know just call it "cement" whether its dry or not. Probably not 100% accurate, But its pretty much part of the culture now. I remember seeing bills that my dad had from "H&G Cement". Not "H&G concrete". And one of the bills I remember was for 285 sq. ft. of "Cement". Besides... We always called it a "Cement" truck.

I think we were just getting hung up on an issue of semantics anyway.

Ahhhh... Back to the topic I guess.

Tim
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Quick answer to the cement/concrete conundrum: People often confuse cement and concrete. Just remember that cement is to concrete as flour is to bread. You should also remember that the shorter word (cement) is just one part of the longer word (concrete).
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I'm actually sitting here laughing out loud.
Why, because once again it only took one person to change the "thought" or "Intent" of a post.
Why do people feel the urge to do such a thing?
There really must be a better way for each to express or brag about what we know withought changing the topic.
so, to answer Preston's questions....
Yes, I do like the show, it may or may not be as accurate as we'd like to believe but non the less, it is actually one of the few shows (IMO), that entertains me.
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This thread is concrete evidence of ridikerousness.

I liked the episode where they built a "tower" in the shop made out of something like gas and soap bubbles and then lit it on fire. Whoosh! Tired of flash paper? Try new Flash Gas! haha-
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That was my favorite episode preston It was just a huge tower of fire.
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Speaking of people flying in lawn chairs adorned with balloons:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080703/ap_o......69MZ.3QA
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I enjoy the show even if I do not always agree with their out results. Sometimes I think they are too quick to call a claimed skill busted when they cannot duplicate it.
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On 2008-06-15 18:39, cns wrote:
I'm actually sitting here laughing out loud.
Why, because once again it only took one person to change the "thought" or "Intent" of a post.
Why do people feel the urge to do such a thing?
There really must be a better way for each to express or brag about what we know withought changing the topic.


Like posting to brag about knowing when others are braging?

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I enjoy the show even if I do not always agree with their out results. Sometimes I think they are too quick to call a claimed skill busted when they cannot duplicate it.


I came to that conclusion as well. What they CAN do is prove a myth as plausible or confirmed. What really gets me is that duplicating the conditions of the original myth is almost impossible, thus making any "busted" myth questionable. Sometimes it's the really rare and quarky occurances that make a myth true, even if you can't duplicate it under test conditions.

Two myths they tested had something to do with an airline hostess falliing from a plane and another about a bombadeer that fell out of his plane from at least 12,000 ft. without a parachute (!) and an explosion at a paris rail station actually cushioned his fall and he survived! These stories of miraculous survival are true and documented, but the Mythbusters were not able to duplicate the conditions that allowed them to live. On their own, the tests would have busted these as pure myth.
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I liked the episode where the construction worker falls off one of the floors of a building under construction and glides to another floor as a result of holding on to a sheet of plywood.

Or the one where they test out myths on how to cool beer....mmmmm beer (LOL)

Poor 'Buster' though....
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Mythbusters is fun. Remember when Ricky Jay was on the throwing cards episode?
That was awesome!
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