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On 2008-06-06 08:11, brehan wrote:
Thanks for the answers guys is it safe to say sound is ok till 200 people and don't play music trough the system!?


If you have not purchased one yet. Don't.

If you already have then you could try it. I would suggest:
Get it up HIGH.
Put it a bit out in the audience to one side and point it properly across the room.
That will keep it from sounding too loud for some and people in the back
will be able to hear it. Do a sound check.

200 is a descent amount of people. Using 2 speakers would be much nicer for them to sit and listen to. More sound without the blast of just one speaker.

Good luck with your choice.
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I agree with Frank. I found the sound to be terrible, and the feedback problem is partly because of the design of the box. For the same money you can get a Mipro 101. Great stuff.
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Keith, just curious, can you elaborate on how the Florida box design causes or increases feedback?

I'm always interested in anything I can do to reduce or eliminate feedback. SETH
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The box was a cheap plastic box that appeared to have no baffling and a rectangular shape behind the speaker. In my experience, I've found that rectangular shapes are great for home speaker systems; but in live situations where there is a microphone in front of the speaker, angles and curves, as well as baffling in the design help with the sound and the feedback. In the Florida Magic PA, the area in front of the speaker in which feedback would occur was very wide compared to any other system I've used (Fender 150 & 250, Peavey, Mipro, Numark & Yamaha). It was difficult to get the level of the voice high enough to be heard but not too high to feed back.

A thought just occurred to me as I'm writing this - the microphone may have also played an important part in the feedback. It could be they were using an omni instead of a cardioid mic, but there was no way for me to tell. I hope this helps - as I'm not an engineer, my conclusions are empirical based.
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Yes, it's an omni and not a good one. it's amazing to me how people will almost insist to find an excuse to buy something of poor quality when so many companies that work hard to make a good product go unnoticed.

p.s. if you don't mind me interjecting about home audio...:
DO NOT BUY BOSE!!! All they are is a marketing machine. The only people that like bose equipment are:
1. Bose
2. The people that have never compared

DON'T BELIVE THE HYPE!
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I saw a Harmen Carmen boom box for Ipod at the Apple store. It sounded GREAT lots of base and good volume. Came with a wireless remote and has inputs so I think it could take a wireless mike. I was thinking of this, it works on batteries, good sound, small, and only $400. Anyone try this?
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You probably mean Harman Kardon ??

Lots of Bass (not base) does not mean good. You want accurate Bass. Not "lots".
You want a bass drum to sound like a bass drum. Not an atomic blast.
(However, some extended bass can help for an audience to create some energy in the room as long as it's not flabby and actually has a pitch to it). H/K makes good equipment when compared with the other mass production companies. Or at least they used to.

The mass produced products sell not by how good the sound is but almost always by the "technical specifications" and the "look".
Example:
There is a scientific way to reduce "total harmonic distortion" by using a negative feedback loop in the signal. You can lower it as much as you want. Companies were all putting out products that had numbers like ".0002% THD" which is almost zero. But the lower the number the WORSE the sound was due to other distortions being increased as a result. But nobody cared. All they cared about was one silly number. Not the sound. In reality, the stereo companies were all competing to create a stereo with BAD sound, on purpose. Why? Because it sold units.

When you go to buy, REALLY ask the experts. Not just the guy at the store with a name-tag on.

In comparison, my stereo has over 1% THD and it's the best I've ever heard.

That number is meaningless and often the smaller the number, the worse the sound.
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