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Pete Biro
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You don't need to buy anyting to learn to handle cups and balls. You hvae cups, glasses, things in the kitchen. wad up some bread or roll up bits of tissue paper or find small rocks or cut up corks... and start to learn to handle things.
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Pete has a great point. You can probably find some plastic tumblers that even allow for nesting sequences. And don't forget, when Lance wanted to do the cups on a TV special, did he use any fancy cups? Nope, 3 coffee mugs from the dollar store.
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Bob Read used to stroll with three teacups he borrowed when he got to whatever venue he was performing at.
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On 2008-06-11 13:26, Bill Palmer wrote:
Think of how many people you have watched whose hand movements were simply beautiful, but they screamed MANIUPLATION. If you watch John Carney do the Ramsay material, you won't realize anything is happening until the magic has occurred. Then it's too late.


This is probably the best post of the year. Too few people care to understand this concept. It will mostly go unnoticed.

For a simple example, check out the vanish of the second "die" in Paul Gertner's "Triple Die Lemma" Routine. That vanish should sum up the thinking of Ramsay, Carney, et al. That's the vanish I use for the second ball in my cups and balls routine.
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On 2008-06-12 01:31, Pete Biro wrote:
You don't need to buy anyting to learn to handle cups and balls. You have cups, glasses, things in the kitchen. wad up some bread or roll up bits of tissue paper or find small rocks or cut up corks... and start to learn to handle things.


This post brought back a rush of memories Pete! I learned Vernon's routine from an older cousin when I was 8 or 9. I practiced it all the time, and showed it to friends whenever I went over their house...plastic drinking cups were my favorite to work with.

In the Marines, I'd use 3 canteen cups & when I was in the Peace Corps (about 20 years after I'd learned the cups routine from my cousin) I still didn't own my own set of metal cups; I had a small plastic set that I'd gotten from a toy store box o' magic.

It wasn't until I was in my late 20s that I bought my first set of cups...I was a stilt-walking, balloon twisting, fire eating, juggler and I'd just bought Charlie Frye's Eccentricks vol. 1. I bought a set of Ickle Pickle cups from the website that I bought my 260 balloons from. I remember thinking "40 bucks for a set of cups! That's crazy...but I need the cho**ed one for this new routine".

Well, here I am in my mid-thirties now, and a bonofied cups junky! I perform twice a week outdoors these days and alternate between a show that ends with the cups and a show that uses no table. My fancy cups have payed for themselves many times over, but I still love to pull out the plastic drinking cups at a friends house for a bit of fun and nostalgia!

Well...sorry for the long trip down memory lane. I had a blast though!
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On 2008-06-10 22:03, whitjm5 wrote:
Thanks for all the feedback.

I did notice Pete, that handling the crocheted balls is VASTLY different than say, spongeballs. False transfers and finger palms will take me a while to get looking pretty. Smile


Marcy sent you out a set of my personal Stainless Montis today, with some balls. Being in Fla. I know you can find some lacrosse balls easily at a sporting store.

They show a bit of wear, but they're not doing me any good sitting in a box. Use them in good health, just promise us all you'll practice practice practice.
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And that, my friends, is a humbling example of "magicians helping magicians."
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Congratulations whitjm5,

Keep us posted on your progress.
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Jake... you are the man~!
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On 2008-06-12 10:51, Donal Chayce wrote:
And that, my friends, is a humbling example of "magicians helping magicians."


I would like to second that! You rock Jake!

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Whitjm5, you've got one fine set of cups on the way!

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On 2008-06-12 10:51, Donal Chayce wrote:
And that, my friends, is a humbling example of "magicians helping magicians."


Ditto and well said.
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Just echoing the point that Bill and others have been making about making your movements look natural, I recall reading that Dai Vernon said once that he would spend the first day or so learning the mechanics of a trick - a basic how-to-do-it self-tutorial........and then having learned the trick, he would go on to spend the next 90 days or so, night after night, practising how to make it look natural BEFORE performing it professionally.

Making your moves look natural..........it really is the supreme misdirection, isn't it?

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Whitjm5,
I just wanted to say congratulations on getting the cups, I am really happy for you (I kind of feel a kinship to you. You were one of my first posts that I replied to when I joined TMC). This is a generous thing for Jake to do for you.

I enjoy visiting TMC more then any time spent speaking with others at a magic shop.

Thanks,
Bruce
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There are a lot of people on this forum that have benefited from this kind of thing from Jake.

He's one heck of a guy!
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Jake is a stand up guy indeed
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Thank you Jake. That's very kind and I'll put many more hours of use on them. Smile As I gain more experience (and gear, I'm sure) I'll be sure and pay the gesture forward to a beginning magician. Until they arrive I'm working on 3/4 across as done on Greg Wilson's "On the Spot." Once they're here my wife will just have to get used to our bathroom counter being cleared off so that I can practice daily in front of the mirror.

Again, a SINCERE THANK YOU!!!

Posted: Jun 18, 2008 3:06pm
Jake,

I received the cups today and they're gorgeous. I'm going to be practicing like a madman (pun intended) in hopes that I can improve my handling enough to perform this for some folks in an assisted living facility next week. I have enough stuff to fill 15-20 minutes without the C&B, but I think it would be a GREAT finale. I'm going to pick up the balls today or tomorrow. Thank you again for your kind gesture. If I can ever help you or another member in any way, please just let me know. I'll keep you updated on my progress.
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Whitjm5,

Good luck.

Jeff
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