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jasanchez Regular user 153 Posts |
Hi guys
Can an anyone help me out it tell me is their anyone that teaches how to do this effect I saw David Copperfield do it, it was amazing, has anyone work with scorpions? thanks |
Allan Bright Regular user 134 Posts |
Hi, the right for this effect have been bought by David Copperfield from a magician in Mexico (Kotkin if I remember correctly). So no one except David Copperfield can present it.
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davemajor Regular user UK 184 Posts |
If I remember rightly Kotkin is the real surname of David Copperfield.
and also I think this has been asked before so may be worth doing a search if you have not already, Dave Major M.M.C |
Dave Scribner Assistant Manager Lake Hopatcong, NJ 4849 Posts |
Dave Major is correct. David Copperfield's real name is Kotkin. Here's a link to a topic talking about working with scorpions. It isn't talking about this effect but does give some insight into using scorpions in general.
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=14
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jasanchez Regular user 153 Posts |
If I was to come with my own presentation of presenting this trick, do you guys think David Copperfield will get mad?
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sperris Special user http://www.Anti-Conjuror.com 881 Posts |
Um yeah dude, of course he would. Just because it is "your own presentation", it still is the trick that is his and his alone.
If I came up with my own presentation of the Lazer illusion that doesn't mean that Fearson or Copperfield can't get mad. That's not how it works most of the time. Spend the time and effort you'd be putting into "your own presentation" into something that is original to you. The only "loophole" would be to claim independent thinking or inspiration but I doubt you were playing with a scorpion one day and thought hey I wanna do a card trick with this. You're better off just doing something that is yours rather than borrowing or taking something that you saw somebody else do...at least you asked this time so snaps for you on that but didn't they teach you any of this at Chavez?
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jasanchez Regular user 153 Posts |
Yes I am a Chavez Student and I would never copy the exact trick that Copperfield is doing, What's the big deal there are a lot magicians that do the same tricks with different presentation, even your self Mr. Dan Sperry just because you dress all creepy and were make up, a few of the dove steals that you do are the same as other magicians its just you have a different presentation an your unique way of doing things, anyways I am not here to get in an argument with a punk kid, that think he is the s....t just cause he is working at the Worlds Greatest Magic Show, I have a lot a respect for you Dan as a performer but don't come at me trying to make it seem like I have copy stuff, when you don't even know me. For your information I did some research on this trick an a really good friend of mine that's a magician from Mexico gave me all the scoop, he told me Joaquin Kotkin taught him this trick, Joaquin still performs this trick in Mexico.
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TOTALLY MAGIC Elite user Las Vegas,NV 436 Posts |
Fight, fight, fight...
P.S. Dan, I don't think your some punk kid, you're my hero. lol P.P.S. Why are you getting so mad? You asked a question, and Dan was just giving you a answer. I know I would be ****ed if I worked hard on a effect, and then someone took it and did the same effect! kyle |
sperris Special user http://www.Anti-Conjuror.com 881 Posts |
It's apples and oranges when it comes to birds...if you came up with a new way to steal a bird of out one of the less than a handful of places they could be then high five for you on that because I'd love to see it Jose, sorry if I'm confused but this is Jose right?
The same Jose that buys products off my web site and came to see me at the Castle and wanted to hire me for a gig in Mexico city and come to lecture in San Diego? If it is not the same Jose Sanches then I'm confusing you with somebody else, and I guess I don't' know who you are. Being in the World's Greatest Magic Show has nothing to do with anything -i was a punk *** kid who thought he was the **** back when I still rocked birthday parties in Chicago, which is why I still try to take as much time out of the way as possible to spend it talking to kids like Kyle and others to help them go in the right direction for them.
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TOTALLY MAGIC Elite user Las Vegas,NV 436 Posts |
I'm not kid I'm a man!?! lol
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sperris Special user http://www.Anti-Conjuror.com 881 Posts |
Did I just hear your voice crack?
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TOTALLY MAGIC Elite user Las Vegas,NV 436 Posts |
Ha,
mr.magic has some jokes!?! |
SM41 Special user 831 Posts |
I know Joaquin Kotkin, I see him in our IBM club every month.
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Chezaday Inner circle Naperville, IL 1673 Posts |
Dan you sure do take a beating in this little area of the Café. I would stick up for your .. but, I do enjoy seeing you get picked on.
It makes me feel better inside ... Steve |
Jethro Magic Regular user 148 Posts |
Easy guys!Llet me get the boxing gloves first!
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
I've got front row seat.
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Kyle^Ravin Inner circle I slammed my head against 1070 Posts |
Thanks Dan, but that makes me a Kid? or is it another kyle I've not heard about?
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