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kesemd1
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I have problem and I don't know why this happened. in birthday party.
My show is 1 hour and half - all my magic trick I do funny.
I do all my magic that way - funny . maybe Age group- 7 up I need do the magic seriously.
after 40 minuts the kids no focus- I need to reinforce my voice (i have wireless microphone ) What do you think my problem ? maybe I do something wrong ? I need change my presentation ?

my program is (the part1) :
opem with magic
trick with birthday child
give 2-3 surprises for kids by the birthday child
magic trick solo with music
magic trick with assistant
give 2-3 surprises for kids by the birthday child
again magic trick solo with music
trick with birthday child
give 2-3 surprises for kids by the birthday child
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Well without really knowing the venue you performed in, the market you did or the age range you were performing for, it is a bit hard to really define the problems and possibly address them with you. However, I would say that a magic show that last 1 hour and 30 mins is just way too long for a child of any age to sit through. My children's shows are either 45 mins or 30 mins in length pending on the age of the kids in attendance. Hope this helps. If you can define a bit more information for us, it would be helpful.

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P.S
After 60 minutes have lunch break 10 minutes.

and sorry about my language.
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Wait. I am confused. Are you going to someone's house and performing a kid's birthday party show? What venue and market is this show being performed for? If so then are you saying you go and do 60 mins of a show, then they go and eat lunch and then come back for 30 minutes more? I just want to be certain that I a understanding? If this is the case, then your obvious problem to me is that the show (for starters) is just way way too long. A show of 45 mins maximum works prefectly fine and is MORE then enough for most events. Now after the 45 min show, if they want you do do balloons or something else as an add on to the package, then you could certainly do that. But a magic show alone lasting 90 mins and with a lunch break is just way too long to be effective for a b-day party event. Hope this helps.

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Kesem, your English is fine. Smile As Kyle pointed out, even 60 minutes is a long time for kids of any age (and many adults) to sit through. Like he said, focus your show into a 30-40 minute slot. Leave your audience wanting more - not checking their watches. In my opinion, a birthday party is no place for a one-man two-act show.
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No .
I do 60 minutes showa and then kids go to lunch break (10 minutes)
meanwhile I make the other tricks . before end part 1 some kids no focus.

That's the custom here, I can't change .
if I do my tricks different way maybe this help.

example : how can I do die box with funny routine ?
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I think an 1 hour and 1/2 is a lot of time for a magic show for our little darlings. I tend to go about 35 to 45 mins at the most. You can tell when you need to stop or go on. If the kids are becoming out of control after 40 mins for you, then you might want to just do a 40 min show.

If you are set on doing an hour and half you can break it up. Do a 30 min magic show. Then you can have games for the kids with prizes to fill up another 30 mins or so. For the last 30 mins do balloon or face painting or a party craft. There are so many things to do.

Just my 2 cents Smile

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List the tricks you perform.
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My point and asking is 30/40 minutes magic show is not a little time ?
I see some show with very good controlling (2 hour). I have diffrent tricks .
the part1 is just magic show the second part is other magic and music birthday ,balloons, extinguishing candles.
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On 2008-06-20 14:26, Dynamike wrote:
List the tricks you perform.

Ali bongo,fantasi magician,die box with fun wands,scissors set- rope magic,eat ballon- solo ,mouth coil,scetch pad - solo. egg bag. All this 1 1/2 hour
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What country are you from. In the US we do from 30 to 45 minute shows. I have done 60 minute shows by request only.
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I think maybe some of the confusion is whether you are just doing the magic show or if you are being hired to basically run the entire birthday party event. It seems like there in may lie the confusion. in the US, most performers are hired to just entertain while the parents and client works on the games or the cake and the birthday candles and music and such. I am wondering if by chance you are being hired to handle the entire birthday party experience including lunch, birthday cake. etc.?

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Kesemd1 how controlable are the kids in the second part of the show? I would imagine that it would be even harder to control the kids after they have had lunch and have already sat through an hour.
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I do 2 hour parties, but even I only do a 1 hour magic show. The second hour is used for party games and dancing. Sometimes even plate spinning.

I have no problems with control, but I do know that looking at your routine you have several problems.

1) You use the birthday child three times! You only need to use them once or the other children will feel left out and realising they don't have a chance to be selected, they will try and force themselves into the show and you will lose control. Just choose different children for the other tricks.

2) You have two solo slots performed to music. Drop these, children don't like show-offs, and that is all you are doing at these moments. You should be engaging the children continuously talking to them and making them laugh. If given even a moment to calm down, you will lose them.

3) I don't know what your giving away as surprises, but there needs to be a reason for it. Rewards are used as a way of gaining control. They are given to those that are well behaved. If your giving them to anybody, then the children have no reason to behave, since they know they will still be getting the reward.
You can still give everybody something at the end, but during the show, only give 1 child something at a time and make a point about why that child is getting it. It will motivate the others to follow their example.

I know you said you've got use to the way you perform but obviously it isn't working for you or you wouldn't have posted.

Hope that helps.

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Here in the U.S. (or maybe it's just me) I don't do games and such for the parties. That would be the parent's job. I perform a show and go home. That would be like Copperfield working the concession or t-shirt sales booth after his show.

The longest most any child will sit for entertainment is about 45 minutes. An hour and a half would NOT work for anyone under 18 years old. We would also not perform a balloon swallowing effect for children. Before you got out the door, a lawyer would be calling you to inform you that some parent was going to sue you.

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Listen to Steve.

Also, I try to break up the time I am at an event. For birthday parties, I arrive and setup. My full hour package (like many others) is a 30 minute magic show followed by a few presents for the birthday child followed by 30 minutes of balloon animals. Once I give out goody bags I am at about 1 hr 15 min.

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On 2008-06-20 17:33, ku7uk3 wrote:
I do 2 hour parties, but even I only do a 1 hour magic show. The second hour is used for party games and dancing. Sometimes even plate spinning.

I have no problems with control, but I do know that looking at your routine you have several problems.

1) You use the birthday child three times! You only need to use them once or the other children will feel left out and realising they don't have a chance to be selected, they will try and force themselves into the show and you will lose control. Just choose different children for the other tricks.

2) You have two solo slots performed to music. Drop these, children don't like show-offs, and that is all you are doing at these moments. You should be engaging the children continuously talking to them and making them laugh. If given even a moment to calm down, you will lose them.

3) I don't know what your giving away as surprises, but there needs to be a reason for it. Rewards are used as a way of gaining control. They are given to those that are well behaved. If your giving them to anybody, then the children have no reason to behave, since they know they will still be getting the reward.
You can still give everybody something at the end, but during the show, only give 1 child something at a time and make a point about why that child is getting it. It will motivate the others to follow their example.

I know you said you've got use to the way you perform but obviously it isn't working for you or you wouldn't have posted.

Hope that helps.

Steve


Great ! - that's really give me something to think about

remarks for some points.
1. "You only need to use them once"
If I talk with mom I promise "your child will be the star of show"
how that's happen if he help me once at 60 minute show?.

2.correct. I'm need removed solo magic then show continuous with kids.

3.great point. one surprise - total 4 at the first part.

Thank you.
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"You only need to use them once"
If I talk with mom I promise "your child will be the star of show"
how that's happen if he help me once at 60 minute show?.

I need to know please.
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You could have 2 effects together for him to assist. Use him/her for the big closer.

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On 2008-06-22 09:08, kesemd1 wrote:
"You only need to use them once"
If I talk with mom I promise "your child will be the star of show"
how that's happen if he help me once at 60 minute show?.

I need to know please.


Use him for the "Best" of your helper effects and have him/her do something to make the magic happen...

or...

If you do a suspension, float the BD Child, ...

or ...

use other children for the first few effects and then just say or do something that makes it clear that this next effect is something special therefore you need to use someone special, someone who is having a birthday to add that birthday magic to make the effect work.

Use your imagination and creativity BUT make it YOU.
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