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magic4u02
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Eric states exactly what I d. I use he birthday child in the middle of the show to do a comical and fun cake bake routine but making them the star. I then use him or her at the very end of the show by suspensing the b-day child using he chair suspension illusion. the entire routine is made to make them the star of the show. suspending or floating the b-day child is a huge thing for parents and for the child. They simply love it and it really empowers the child. it also allows me to have the child up twice but separates the magic moments as well.

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Better still make no promise at all about that. Say the show will be for your child. I make the birthday child a big part of the show BUT the child is not always going to WANT to help. I have run into this many times and if you say the CHILD WILL BE THE STAR well what happens when the CHILD does not want to work with you on this. It happens. Also remember the other kids are there as well and want to be included too. If you take all that away from them what have they got to look forward to. "Oh well its always going to be the Birthday girl/boy helping so whats in it for me" Everyone wants to play and not be left out. Ok that's my 2 cents and we know what 2 cents is worth anymore.
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I have an out for that as well. First it is always clearly stated to the client (parent) that I never force their child or any child to assist if they do not want to or are uncomfortable. This is agreed in advance. however, if they do not want to help, I still make them the star through other means. This can be 1) using their name as the magic word for the day that makes the magic happen. 2) having the b-day child wave their hands at an effect from their seats to make the magic work 3) Giving the b-day child some special things like their own magic wand, color flyer, magicians assistant certificate or magic kit. 4) having the child help make another child float using the chair suspension illusion if they do not want to do it themselves. In this fashion hey are the ones adding their magic to make the illusion work. So there are ways in which I combat the problem of the child not wanting to assist me. It works wel for my wife and I.

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Exactly what I meant Kyle only you actually said it I forgot to LOL.

My point was / is I never make any promise about such things in advance. Yes the bday child is important. Yes its about him/her. It is also important to make all the children feel part of the show that's where you get some of (if not a great portion of) your audience control. At least tahts what works for me.

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I only use the birthday child once, for the very first trick. It instantly makes them important and gets the birthday child trick out of the way.
All other effects, including the finish are done with different children.

The birthday child is still the star of the show, and it is after all, their party. They don't have to be involved in every single trick, only 1. I also choose them first because you never know what distractions are going to come into play later on in the show, and it is important that they participate. I would not leave it until the end in case the parent decided to start the bouncy castle half way though, destroying my show. It would mean the birthday child never got a chance to join in.

I have never had a problem with this. As long as they are in 1 trick, that is all the parents care about.

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We've all run into that child. When booking the show, mom says, "little Suzie isn't shy at all and LOVES to be up in front of people". Then when asked..she refuses to even stand up during the show. Nothing you can do about that. Can't force the child up. Especially if you try to get him/her up first, that won't work. I take a few minutes pre-show, before the guests even arrive to introduce myself to the birthday child, shake their hand and ask them if it's alright to ask them to help out during the show.

Also..when the balloon add-on is hired, too, I bring my balloons premade and pretwisted in a huge clear bag, give them to the birthday mom to pass out AS THE CHILDREN LEAVE. But...that being said, I do make the birthday person their own balloon at the conclusion of the magic show. Also, I make a "twisted wrister" for the child to give to the parent who hired me, with instructions to "give 'em a big hug and tell 'em THANK YOU FOR HAVING STEVE THE MAGICIAN AT MY PARTY".

It works and always gets the "AWWWWWWW" factor from the whole audience. That helps make them a star even if they are shy.

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Do you have this situation ?
sometimes father/mom of child they said "take a lot my child "
I said "i have clear program don't worry .

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I had a party recently for twin girls who were very outgoing and keen to come up front to help with a trick, I thought they would be fine because it was the two of them, all was going well until they got overwhelmed with everyone watching them and one burst into tears then the other one did as well in sympathy, made me feel bad but Mum was OK. Just goes to show you can never predict what will happen with kids.
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Hi
I must tell you - it's work !!!
3 lasts show goin very good ! without problem.

Thanks to all, great forum.
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I had a MOM say don't use the birthday boy he is shy and will cry etc. I still used him from where he was sitting before I knew it he was next to me particiating in the show. You just gotta knowwhen and where to start and stop. This comes with experience. Good luck its always an adventure, I wouldn't have it any other way.

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I've learned In some countries, Israel for example I've heard,
it is the custom for the "birthday magician" to actually be more,
they are really hired as total "event planners".

The magician arrives to set-up the decorations and games,
oversees the entire party, including his show,
but also food, games, gift opening, etc.
then before he leaves cleans up the mess and dishes.

I'm soooo glad I don't live in one of those places,
but that's how it is handled in a few cases off shore.
THAT could be the case with this fellow,
and why the confusion in his questions.

I feel there is never a set time for a show itself to run,
it's as short or as long as specific circumstances and attention allows,
from fifteen to fifty minutes depending on that day's unfolding.

My thoughts,
Walt
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On 2008-06-28 12:09, SpellbinderEntertainment wrote:
I've learned In some countries, Israel for example I've heard,
it is the custom for the "birthday magician" to actually be more,
they are really hired as total "event planners".

The magician arrives to set-up the decorations and games,
oversees the entire party, including his show,
but also food, games, gift opening, etc.
then before he leaves cleans up the mess and dishes.

I'm soooo glad I don't live in one of those places,
but that's how it is handled in a few cases off shore.
THAT could be the case with this fellow,
and why the confusion in his questions.

I feel there is never a set time for a show itself to run,
it's as short or as long as specific circumstances and attention allows,
from fifteen to fifty minutes depending on that day's unfolding.

My thoughts,
Walt


Walt,

You bring up an interesting concept. I've often thought about offering to be an "event planner" as a way to stand out from the competition. I imagine there are parents who don't want to bother with the details of a party and would love this and pay a nice price for it. To tell you the truth, the only reason why I have not done this yet, is because the thought of being with those brats for 2 to 3 hours is more that I can handle! Smile But the idea does have merit.
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I usually do 3 things to make the birthday kid the star. I bring him/her up to help with the 1st trick then, establish "happy birthday johnny" as the magic word. At the end of the show I bring him up again and make a large multi balloon animal because 'everyone that invites me to their birthday party gets a big balloon animal.'
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Ken:

That is cetrtainly something that has merit for sure. The issue becomes do you want to be spending so much time and energy doing the entire event planning for every party. There tends to be more overhead and a lot more responsibility falls on you if anything at all does not go the way the client wants it. You also may not be able to do multiple shows on the same day if you are spending more time at the one event. It can work if you take everything into consideration and determine if it is right for you.

For my wife and i, we just enjoy being entertainers and we still offer to help and asisst our clients with questions to have a greta show. This is what it means about being a solutions provider. I solve as many problems for them as I can and in so doing increase my value. I am just not the one who buys the cake and sends out the invites etc. I do offer suggestions to them on how to do these things effectively.

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I never tell the client I will make the Birthday child the star. I have found that sometimes the Birthday child is the worst behaved kid at the party.
If you do a good show, that is most important. I also have never had a parent say, please make my kid the star either.
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