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Ozer4 Veteran user NYC 329 Posts |
Hi,
I just recently got Spectacle by Stephen Minch, and love this effect. I wonder if anyone on here uses the trick and if so, what reactions you get from it, and what type of presentation you employ. -Oz |
ixnay66 Inner circle Denver 1525 Posts |
That's a cool trick and a cool book. While I don't do it, the construction is super cool. Let us all know how it works out for you. Tommy Wonder's spellbound routine in Spectacle is awesome too. I was thinking of doing that routine.
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Dave Egleston Special user Ceres, Ca 632 Posts |
Oz,
It makes my day to hear that YOU like this - As I've said before - The vanish of the first and second coin has never failed to get the "Double take" from magician and layman alike - I don't know if Mr Latta came up with this move - But it is genius Dave |
Schaden Inner circle Purgatory 1253 Posts |
What is the Effect?
Lee |
Dave Egleston Special user Ceres, Ca 632 Posts |
Coins magically disappear ---- and then --- mysteriously reappear ---- seemingly from nowhere!!!!
Dave |
ixnay66 Inner circle Denver 1525 Posts |
You need a performing surface to do it though. I try to find effects I can do anywhere standing so I passed on it. Killer-diller though.
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Curtis Kam V.I.P. same as you, plus 3 and enough to make 3498 Posts |
Come see it live, by Mr. Latta himself!
That's right, it's a COINvention plug. See the LVMI website.
Is THAT a PALMS OF STEEL 5 Banner I see? YARRRRGH! Please visit The Magic Bakery
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ixnay66 Inner circle Denver 1525 Posts |
Sounds great Curtis! Oh wait...I just remembered. I'm engaged and have no $$$. DOH!
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Geoff Latta Regular user New York 158 Posts |
Well, for what it's worth, I still use it all the time. As far as a surface to work on goes, I've done it on a bar, a barstool, a coffee table, the floor, a magazine held by the spectator, etc. That last is a good solution for a lot of tricks. The book will contain two longer standup versions, one at chest height with dollars, one palm up with halves. Both use entirely new, heretofore unpublished techniques of mine. As far as presentation goes, it can be simple exposition or a story, there's a lot of ways to handle it. Sometimes, especially in the longer versions, I do it as if I'm going to do something else with the coins but they won't behave, and frustrate me by vanishing, jumping around, etc.
Regarding Dave Egleston's implied question, yes, I came up with that. At the time, anyone who wanted to vanish one of a group of coins with a shell just nested it. The idea of doing a "normal" vanish with a real coin, and then proving the disappearance by nesting the shell afterwards is original with me. This kind of indirect use of gaffs is, frankly, something that I pioneered back in the late 70's and early 80's, and seems to have influenced a lot of coin magic since then. But at the time, it was new, and fooled everyone. It's not limited to shells, either. C/S coins and many other types of gaffs can be handled this way. The book will be full of this sort of thing. I only use gaffs when they give you something you really need that can't be done without them, and I use them minimally and indirectly. They are never used as a substitute for sleights, but rather to clean up after sleights. In the "Elfin Hoard" routine, the shell is used to ditch the coin after the first vanish, not to vanish the coin. Hope this helps, Best, Geoff
"There is a thin line between genius and insanity. I have erased this line." --Oscar Levant
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ixnay66 Inner circle Denver 1525 Posts |
I'm looking forward to seeing your new stuff! Any idea when the book is coming out? By the way, I think your Cop Sil Brass routine is also an amazing piece of magic. Do you perform this still as well?
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Curtis Kam V.I.P. same as you, plus 3 and enough to make 3498 Posts |
I forgot to mention that if you're interested in Geoff's book, his lectures at the COINvention and LVMI are going to be everyone's first chance to sneak a peek at the new material. That is, unless we decide to cancel Geoff's lecture, and keep the material to ourselves!
Is THAT a PALMS OF STEEL 5 Banner I see? YARRRRGH! Please visit The Magic Bakery
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Geoff Latta Regular user New York 158 Posts |
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On 2003-04-04 14:14, ixnay66 wrote: Yes, I still do it as written pretty often. It's held up pretty well over the years. I've been working, off and on, on a standup version of this as well. It should be in the book also. Best, Geoff p.s. As far as the book goes, I'm shooting for late this year, but it's a lot of work. We'll see.
"There is a thin line between genius and insanity. I have erased this line." --Oscar Levant
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shanla Loyal user Japan, Tokyo 285 Posts |
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On 2003-04-04 12:21, Geoff Latta wrote: Hello, Geoff. I am also looking forward to get your forthcoming book! By the way, and as far as I know, your "Quadra Quicksand Coins Away" is the first routine including a indirect use of a shell that you mentioned above. Is that right? And I want to mention that your "Cosmic Coins Across" is also a ingenious combination of a shell coin and Hang Ping Chien. Regards T. Takenaka
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Geoff Latta Regular user New York 158 Posts |
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On 2003-04-04 19:40, shanla wrote: That one is actually pretty direct as I do close the hand to nest the shell and vanish the coin. But it does contain something that was new and unique at the time; the idea of palming a coin as you apparently place it into the left hand, un-nesting a shelled coin there to prove the transfer. It's kind of hidden, as in that particular case it's a two-for-two transfer, although I had used it in other routines one-for-one. This idea became very popular after David Roth published it in his shelled coins across in Expert Coin Technique sometime later. Here comes the plug: A much more refined, subtle and deceptive technique for accomplishing the same thing will be in the book. As for cosmic coins across, I mostly only did that for magicians. It was an experiment to see how close to ideal conditions I could get. To be able to show both hands empty, show the proper number of coins cleanly and still have them go across. The interesting part is that you get all of that with no palming. Best, Geoff Quote:
On 2003-04-04 14:35, Curtis Kam wrote: Curtis, I didn't know you were that keen on two-hour-long ring on rope routines.... Just kidding.
"There is a thin line between genius and insanity. I have erased this line." --Oscar Levant
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