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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts 
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I watched the new Hellboy movie last night. It is not as good as the first movie, but it is a fun picture to watch. Great action, special effects, lots of humor, and a good story line, but with parts that did not work for me (the Abe crush being the biggest one) in my opinion, what weakened the film was the attempt to weave in bits and pieces of upcoming story lines, laying the groundwork for future films. If it had stuck with the current storyline and played that a little stronger, the movie would have been more cohesive.
That being said, there were some spots where I could not hold in the laughs, the beer drinking, singing love songs scene being one of them. And the visual effects were great. It is a fun film. Tony |
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Leland Stone Inner circle 1204 Posts
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"Not as good as the first movie?" Okay, that kills any interest I might have had to view this thing.
What was wrong with the first movie? I mean, besides the cheesiness, the hackneyed "one of us or one of them" story, the achingly bad lines ("I vould keeck your #ss, if I had any legs!") and the Capra-in-Hades finale? Two words: Jeffery Tambour. |
ClintonMagus Inner circle Southwestern Southeast 3997 Posts
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I finally saw the first one last night on cable, and I thought it was GREAT, mainly because of the cheesiness. I wasn't a Hellboy fan, so I can't compare the story line with the written version, but it was a fun ride.
I missed the first part of the movie, though. How did he become what he is?
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EsnRedshirt Special user Newark, CA 895 Posts
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ClintonMagus- Hellboy was born that way.
During WW2, some special ops soldiers managed to stop an occult summoning ritual being conducted by Rasputin- and discovered a "hellbaby" had slipped in through the portal before it closed.
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts
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He's a Devil with the horns broken off....
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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Aaron Little Loyal user Lexington KY 263 Posts
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I enjoyed the first one as well as all of the animated movies. I am looking forward to seeing this one next weekend.
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Chessmann Inner circle 4247 Posts
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Will Hell Boy be one of the Avengers? Did another hero from another film come and talk to Hell Boy at the end of the movie?
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airship Inner circle In my day, I have driven 1594 Posts
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What HellBoy is, is an all-too-rare example of perfect casting. Ron Perlman IS HellBoy! I wish all of the other comic book movies had done as well with casting their heroes (or anti-heroes).
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2889 Posts
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On 2008-07-15 12:06, Pakar Ilusi wrote: Actually, he's sawen them off and grinds them down on a regular basis. (Interesting point, are their nerve endings in the horns? That would be painful.)
"...and if you're too afraid of goin' astray, you won't go anywhere." - Granny Weatherwax
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airship Inner circle In my day, I have driven 1594 Posts
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And the reason he cuts them off is because if they grow out, a glowing ball of fire of hellish power appears between them, and he knows that power is destined one day to destroy the world.
So, in other words, he has a pretty good reason to keep them trimmed.
'The central secret of conjuring is a manipulation of interest.' - Henry Hay
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Doug Higley 1942 - 2022 7152 Posts
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Higley's Giant Flea Pocket Zibit
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts
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Finally, a reviewer who knows what he is doing!
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Dave Scribner Assistant Manager Lake Hopatcong, NJ 4855 Posts
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Actually Ed, near the end of the first movie, he breaks them off and stops "the glowing ball of fire from hell".
I too was disappointed at this second movie. It had a lot of special effects but the story really wasn't about hellboy. At least not like the first movie was. I agree that the beer drinking segment was about the funniest part of the movie. I thought Abe seemed too much like C-3PO in star wars. Seemed to have the same type of movements and at the same time was a little "slow" in the mental process. Compared to most of the movies being released right now though, I think it was the best bet.
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JTW Special user Florida 670 Posts
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We walked out...
Terrible... This marks only the second movie I have EVER walked out of. Horrible script! There were so many sub-plots (we counted five) that they had to literally explain what was going on! there is nothing worse than a writer beating you over the head with strangled dialog. Abe was a dissapointment from the first time he opened his mouth...the C-3PO comment was dead on...down to the "Oh my" aaarrrrgggggg! The movement had changed for the character which is surprising because the same actor played him in both films. (Doug Jones portrays but David Hyde-Pierce voiced over the character in the first movie- a decision by the studio- a good one I might add). We never got to the beer drinking scene. We walked after the fight with the nature god. Maybe when it is a $5.00 movie at my local ESL wal-mart, I might see the whole thing...then again probably not... |
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2889 Posts
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On 2008-07-17 15:24, Dave Scribner wrote: I didn't read the comic and I didn't see the first film. I thought he was just trying to minimize his differences with the rest of the world. But sacrificing the ability to destroy the world is pretty cool too! I like the charcter, but I don't think I'm going to be a big fan.
"...and if you're too afraid of goin' astray, you won't go anywhere." - Granny Weatherwax
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Aleister Killerby New user Sunny Australia 56 Posts
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On 2008-07-15 11:14, Leland Stone wrote: But that's what made the first one great. I've always thought of hellboy I as a bit of a parody of these types of films, am I wrong? Haven't seen hellboy II yet, hasn't even come out in Australia. Look forward to it. Aleister |
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Leland Stone Inner circle 1204 Posts
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Fair enough, but decent parody requires talent, and IMO, Hellboy displays too little to qualify. Good parody in this genre? "Army Of Darkness." I kinda wonder if Hellboy is more along the lines of the unintentional parody done by Paris Hilton?
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts
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I liked it....
Imo, it is a Big Red Demon who beats up Big Ugly Monsters with his Big Hand and Big Gun! It's a Popcorn Movie! You guys think too much... Imo...
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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Jordini Inner circle 2765 Posts
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On 2008-07-17 19:08, JTW wrote: I totally agree, this movie was terrible (in my opinion). Even at the matinee price, not worth it. I felt like all the characters were masquerading as what they were supposed to be. Hellboy is supposed to be a bad-ass, but he fell significantly short. Abe is one of the worst characters I've ever seen. He's supposed to be an "intellectual" and they portrayed this by him listening to the four seasons by Vivaldi. NOT EVEN WINTER! Spring. How more generic can you get. "What are you listening to?" "Oh, VIVALDI, I'm such an intellectual!" This movie was so bad that afterwards my friend and I rented Die Hard With A Vengeance. Which btw, is a FANTASTIC movie. Watch that instead, it's actually entertaining. Skip out on Hellboy 2. |
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