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Strange Tasting Fish Sticks
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Mr.Ree, here's my opinion on this.

As a kid I always enjoyed magic. I don't remember exaclty what got me started though. I would practice sponge balls for a long time getting the sleights good, for hours. My interests change quickly because of a disorder I have (aspergers), as well as OCD with magic, which isn't fun. I've often switched interest completely from numismatics (the study of coins and money) to magic. There's a huge difference between the two.


As in magic requires skill and dexterity, learning about how to grade coins properly, and reading all you can about coins gives you a lot of knowledge, which is vital in numismatics. And it doesn't really take any skill, you don't have to "practice" anything (besides grading, of course). It's a nice change. However, when I was into numismatics I would buy coins and obess over them, thinking they were fake, cleaned (which is a bad thing), graded wrong, and it would drive me and everyone else crazy (because of my OCD). So I switched to magic to drown it out.


As I posted in my other thread, after doing magic for many years I simply didn't want to do it anymore. I didn't want to practice anymore. I just got tired of it. It seems like a chore; that and coin magic in paticular. A particular sleight called the classic palm, in which I practiced for over 5 months straight, carrying it in my palm everyday, with no improvement, was very discouraging to me. As well as moving to a new house, losing old friends, and having to make new ones, all took a toll on my magic. I found a way to remedy it, however; I found that if I practice in front of the TV during commercials and during TV watching TV it goes by much easier.

So recently, I decied to take a break from coin magic and go into ring magic/manipulation. I ordered de'vo's de'ring magic DVD the day it came back, in 2006. When I ordered it my ring didn't work. I thought it was because it was the wrong size, as you did the perfect fit. I got it resized, and it STILL didn't fit. I'm beginning to think that it wasn't because of its wrong size, but it was because of not enough practice. The reason I think this was because I recently got it resized again (pending to get it back) while I bought a band ring to practice the basic ring on with. For 2 days, I practiced 8 hours a day, constantly, doing the basic ring on.

I found out that it (the ring) got stuck at the knuckle and wouldn't go on smooth or on at all. I thought there was something wrong with me. Then yesterday, it worked! I could do it everytime, and now I can do it well and am building up speed. I even showed it to my mom and fooled her. (Althoulgh I shouldn't have, as I still can't do it fast enough)

This gave me a lot of confidence so now I'm back into magic and flourishes full time, practicing hours a day. I think that I will probably fall into the same trap you did, again, and get burned out from all the practicing. But it will come back. It's normal man.
Mr. Ree
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JamesTong
I have enjoyed your advice here at the "Café" for just
over a year now. Thanks as always. I always get too
serious too quickly.

I am slowly starting to pick a couple of things to do with magic just for fun.

My early success(es) at Magic really started having too many
people and situations put too much pressure on me.
(It quickly became more stress than fun.)

meitzmagic: Both main points understood and
they sound like they will help. Thanks.

Strange Tasting Fish Sticks
Thanks for your detailed message. There are a couple of good comments that apply to me.
I could also tell this came from the heart.

If you don't mind I would enjoy hearing a quick comment about
the idea(s) behind you online handle. "Strange Tasting Fish Sticks".

Thanks all,
An idea can turn to dust or magic, depending on the talent that rubs against it.
---- William Bernbach (1911 - 1982) ----

(After 25 years of PCs, everything switched to Macs, June 2008)
JamesTong
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Mr. Ree,

Let's enjoy life together. Life is meant to be lived happily and of course fully too. There will be challenges but we all get by.

God bless you and your family ..... and your MAGIC too.
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I've just come off a five month break from anything magic related, not by choice but because of family related issues, anyway in the three months that I have been back I notice that my direction of my magic is more well defined.
I guess we can all go stale once in a while, the important thing is to know when to back off and take a break, and the come back refreshed and renewed.
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I've just come off a five month break from anything magic related, not by choice but because of family related issues, anyway in the three months that I have been back I notice that my direction of my magic is more well defined.
I guess we can all go stale once in a while, the important thing is to know when to back off and take a break, and the come back refreshed and renewed.
ryan8406
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I switch back and forth between magic and guitar.
Strange Tasting Fish Sticks
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On 2008-08-23 01:58, Mr. Ree wrote:
JamesTong
I have enjoyed your advice here at the "Café" for just
over a year now. Thanks as always. I always get too
serious too quickly.

I am slowly starting to pick a couple of things to do with magic just for fun.

My early success(es) at Magic really started having too many
people and situations put too much pressure on me.
(It quickly became more stress than fun.)

meitzmagic: Both main points understood and
they sound like they will help. Thanks.

Strange Tasting Fish Sticks
Thanks for your detailed message. There are a couple of good comments that apply to me.
I could also tell this came from the heart.

If you don't mind I would enjoy hearing a quick comment about
the idea(s) behind you online handle. "Strange Tasting Fish Sticks".

Thanks all,


Haha, I like to find humor in life. I used to play an online game called Gemstone III (Now Gemstone IV) (www.play.net/gs4) which I was extremely addicted to. I would play day and night, everyday, for over 4 years. I wasn't the best character, and I was banned forever. It instilled a great pain in me, and I miss about it everyday, even dream about it, but there's nothing I can do to play again, so I try to find humor in life. One of them is to create funny names for forums. My name on the PCGS boards is fruitloops, my name on the NGC boards is stinkycheese, etc. No real reason for it, just I try to have fun to mask the pain.
MaxfieldsMagic
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You're lucky that you have enough time to devote to magic to actually get burned out. Maybe someday...
Now appearing nightly in my basement.
Jaxon
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A lot of great advice in this discussion and also some links to other great discussions on similar subjects.

I'd like to add one more link to a discussion I started a few years ago titled, "Phases of magic study" that you might want to check out. Particularly the "Life Changes" phase I mention. Notice what fallows the "Life Changes" phase in my example.

I realize not everyone will go through the same phases and they won't always come in the right order. But I hope this other discussion might in some way put your mind at ease on the issue.

Check it out here
http://themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic......forum=41

Ron Jaxon
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After regaining my ability to hear after 20 years of deafness. I learned that there is magic all around you. The simplest sounds that amazed me you probably ignore. Look and listen around you right now. You'll find something you didn't notice before.
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On 2008-08-27 05:02, ryan8406 wrote:
I switch back and forth between magic and guitar.


I switch regularly back and forth between magic and the gutter
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pradell
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There is a delicate balance between enjoying our art as an avocation and toiling with magic as a vocation. We're drawn to magic because we love it, and a benefit of our enjoyment is a release from the stresses that burden us in everyday life. However, many of us also use magic to put food on the table, or otherwise become overburdened by the number of tasks we take on, the standards of perfection and quality the we set for ourselves or the number of props we accumulate. At that point, our art form can feel more like work than play. Like any other healthy relationship, balance is the key. Burnout is a normal reaction. How we address it is our choice. Try not to kill the goose to get the golden eggs. Taking a break when needed is not a taboo.

:magicrabbit:
Mr. Ree
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On 2008-07-22 16:59, jimhlou wrote:
We all come back - it's an addiction.

Jim


Jim, I guess you're right. I just never dreamt
it would be 7 months.

pradell: I will try to attempt the:
"delicate balance between enjoying our art as an avocation and toiling with magic as a vocation".

Before it was more like a mad dash.
An idea can turn to dust or magic, depending on the talent that rubs against it.
---- William Bernbach (1911 - 1982) ----

(After 25 years of PCs, everything switched to Macs, June 2008)
The Amazing Noobini
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So in other words you are back now? That's great! I'm sure your magic will benefit greatly from having taken the time to step back and digest things a little.

Welcome back!
"Talk about melodrama... and being born in the wrong part of the world." (Raf Robert)
"You, my friend, have a lot to learn." (S. Youell)
"Nonsensical Raving of a lunatic mind..." (Larry)
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