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Rosemary Loyal user 245 Posts |
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On 2008-07-21 14:34, PsiDroid wrote: I absolutely agree. I only protest against the first case, in which you don't know it before buying. Too bad that this happens. |
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Roth Inner circle The 18 5090 Posts |
Everyone feel free to perform any Outlaw products on T.V.! Send me the tape!
So far The Relic and The Scorpion have seen air time. Several Outlaw products have been performed at the Magic Castle! this has been a paid announcement by outlaw effects. no animals were harmed in the production. catered by One Ahead caterers of Pasadena, Ca. |
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Rosemary Loyal user 245 Posts |
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On 2008-07-21 14:36, IAIN wrote: oh, that's another matter ! But it shouldn't be prohibited if you don't know it in advance! Quote:
On 2008-07-21 14:39, Roth wrote: er... I believe that "split reality" is also an outlaw product now ? |
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Alexander Marsh Inner circle England 1191 Posts |
I always assumed that TV performance rights where withheld.
I have also seen in the 'copyright' blurb in some books that TV rights are withheld.
My stuff: AlexanderMarshMentalism.co.uk
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
Rosemary:
No, it is being advertised there as an independent product, not part of the Outlaw line. Purchases and monies go through the seller, for example, Jeff, and not through Outlaw. This is stated on the Outlaw Website. Tony |
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mindpunisher Inner circle 6132 Posts |
If someone takes money for selling an effect its yours. At best I would change the presentation aand patter. But If bought something I bought it to use.
My disclaimer is if you don't want others to use your material DON'T SELL IT!. If the material is that good you shouldn'thave to sell it. You should be making more than enough money from it. I can't stand whinging over inflated egos go on about restricting use of something they released in the first place. I can't see a problem here. And of course you don't get my disclaimer until you see me on tv... |
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ALEXANDRE Inner circle 3024 Posts |
What I don't understand is, if it's your "pet effect", then why release it?
Why should I buy effects that have restrictions? To see how clever the writer is? Not good enough for me as a customer. Besides, if I perform on TV for something, I don't want to have to worry about restrictions. This happened to me here in Miami. I was doing some stuff at Bayside and here comes ABC Channel 10. They recorded me performing a routine and it went on the air. Lucky for me it was one of my own. But what a drag if all of a sudden I have to worry about who to contact and what restrictions I broke.... I have pet effects I've created that you guys know nothing about, you know what I do with them? Keep them to myself. If you're lucky some day I'll sell them for an exorbitant amount. What I've released so far is material I still use, or have used, but it's clear to me that once I've decided to release them, they are available to the customer to be performed anywhere they see fit, stage, TV, the big screen, local mall, mom's house, whatever. But that's just me and these are only my very personal opinions.
HERE'S A SECRET ...
http://www.lybrary.com/mystic-alexandre-m-354.html |
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Christopher Taylor V.I.P. British Columbia Canada 2314 Posts |
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On 2008-07-21 14:39, Roth wrote: I'm with you Roth! I am happy to say that a good number of performers HAVE used my products on TV and have sent me footage. Cheers. Christopher |
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Rosemary Loyal user 245 Posts |
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On 2008-07-21 14:50, Tony Iacoviello wrote: Then I apologise to Roth. I like outlaws anyway ! |
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Ezzet Veteran user Sweden 391 Posts |
Great topic to bring up Rosemary. Although if I should ever be so lucky to perform on television.
Ezzet |
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Rosemary Loyal user 245 Posts |
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Of course, this is something to be proud of ! And Ezzet, of course most of us never go on TV. But that doesn't mean we don't need all the info about the product before we buy it. |
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Jay Are Inner circle 4186 Posts |
Hey everyone...
I am very sorry for the furror this has caused... Concerning Split Reality... I was advised to with hold TV performance rights on the effect. I am working on a few projects where performance of original material on TV is concerned... I know I have purchased effects before from top names in the industry where the performer reserves television broadcast rights. Television performance rights are often withheld. Conflicting LIVE performance rights may also be with held. Persoanlly I have purchased a number of effects that held such clauses... To my knowledge the withheld Television performance rights for Split Reality have not caused issues or caused anyone to be unhappy with the purchase. If there is an issue I ask that those purchasers please contact me directly -- and I will make sure that a satisfactory agreement is reached for both parties. I try to be as transparent as possible -- this being my first release, it may have been an error in judgement to not outwardly state that TV performance rights were with held. The advertising copy on OUTLAW effects concerning SR will be changed as soon as possible to include this information. Once again -- my appologies for any inconnvenience this may have caused... All the best! J
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Rosemary Loyal user 245 Posts |
Now that's an entirely different attitude than
" I don't see the point of this post, she's defaming fellow performers again". See how someone can change during one summer afternoon ? :) |
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mindpunisher Inner circle 6132 Posts |
I think all this with holding tv rights etc is mental Masturbating.( I don't believe I got away with that word)
But then there are a few knucle dancers in mentalism. If you don't want it on TV don't sell it period. |
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Nathan Pain Inner circle iowa 2825 Posts |
I'm with Rosemary on this one...what a strange day, but a great topic!
Nathan
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Rosemary Loyal user 245 Posts |
I agree. But at least we should be warned in advance, in case we don't want to see that m.......... .
Even though I'm not on TV, I would definitely not buy something if I can't do with it what I want. But if all the info is provided, each can make up his own mind about that. Quote:
On 2008-07-21 15:39, Nathan Pain wrote: A new and strange, but nice experience, Nathan |
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JustinCredible28 Loyal user Seattle 217 Posts |
Hi Rosemary, maybe one of theses sellers would be so kind as to act as your own personal ''tv consultant'' as a way of reaching a possible agreement? haha, if not, get your money back, cuz that's sure sneaky on their part...
"a distorted reality is now a necessity to be free. . ." -- Elliott Smith
http://www.NWFortuneTeller.com |
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John Nesbit Inner circle United States 1421 Posts |
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On 2008-07-21 15:36, mindpunisher wrote: That should be the end of the topic. (period) ! |
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Silvertongue Inner circle One day I will die leaving behind 2426 Posts |
I saw this ' cannot perform on tv ' once printed within the instructions for healed and sealed soda can.
Not impressed. If I buy it, its mine. But I would send a copy to the creator to see what they thunk.
For as long as space exists,
And living beings remain in cyclic existence, For that long, may I too remain, to dispel the sufferings of the world. -Shantideva Engaging in the Conduct of a Bodhisattva |
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
Heck, speaking of morals etc. I posted an idea for Whitestar and Luna and someone PM'd me saying what a wonderful concept and told me he wouldn't use it since it was "mine" - I pointed out 'Hey, if I posted it on the MC, its cuz I am sharing my ideas like others here and go ahead and use it with my blessings - as its all about proper crediting and so on" but I was really honoured someone actually asked me.... I often get that but I think in theory (besides steve actually owning everything posted on MC ) anything here posted publically is shareware worthy - but I still also check in with creators before using novel concepts...
Maybe this has nothing to do with anything but felt related!
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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