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Nicholas Spade Regular user Cincinnati Ohio 123 Posts 
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I just love dai vernons cups and balls routine.
I have no experience with cups and balls. So it would be great if any one could tell me, what cups and balls I need, and what learning materials to get Thanks? |
Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24314 Posts
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Any decent metal set will do. I recommend that you get the Michael Ammar DVD's. If you can find a copy of the Michael Ammar book, The Complete Cups and Balls, that will help immensely.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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Nicholas Spade Regular user Cincinnati Ohio 123 Posts
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On 2008-07-27 14:52, Bill Palmer wrote: Thank you very much |
Mark Rough Inner circle Ivy, Virginia 2110 Posts
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Just a second for Bill's suggestion of the Ammar material. The dvd's are invaluable, and the book is one of the easiest magic books to learn from ever written. Plenty of very clearly written direction and good photos. I wish more books were written like this.
Mark
What would Wavy do?
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24314 Posts
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I have been visiting with Michael over the past few days. He has been giving very generously of his time to new magicians as well as new manufacturers. What a guy!
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
Keith Mitchell Special user 799 Posts
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I am kind of new with C&B as well, so here is a list of stuff I have on C&B.
Micheal Ammars DVDs, the most amount of information on how to handle the cups, balls, and wand. Shows different routines with different cups. Cups & Balls by Bob White who is pretty good Royal Magic: 25 Amazing Magic Tricks with C&B, this DVD goes through different routines rather quickly with little dialog which is what I liked about it. Several Gazzo DVDs on C&B, this is guy is fantastic to watch. A couple booklets from RNT-2 that were fun to learn, and one of them is a routine for mini-cups which is now my favorite routine. Micheal Ammars DVDs is probably the best way to go since it has the most information on C&B. BTW, I am deaf and cannot hear a word any of these DVDs are saying and none of them have Closed-Captioning or Subtitles, therefore I do not have a clue as to what is being said. The GOOD NEWS is that a new DVD was sent out today that is supposed to include Closed-Captioning and I cannot wait to see it. It is called "Got A Light" check it out! |
Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts
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I also suggest the cups & balls DVD from http://www.stevensmagic.com This gives you a few different options to the Vernon way.
Posted: Aug 1, 2008 12:12pm And... you might want to NOT study anyone else and spend some time working out ideas of your own.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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L Trunk Loyal user Australia 207 Posts
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Al Schneider and Tommy Wonder. This has been discussed a lot here. More detailed discussions of what those two, Ammar and Bob White teach are detailed in other threads.
I just looked at Ammar's site to buy some fab fruit for my cups and balls. Back-ordered! 
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Sir Richard Special user 650 Posts
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Quote: Hi Madkiki; it's interesting about your lack of hearing. We have a member of our Magic Club in the Quad Cities by name of "Rick Rowray" who is totally deaf. He's been written up years ago in a book entitled "Silent Magic". & is a top-notch pro! He recently took 1st place in our close-up contest. S.R.
On 2008-08-01 10:15, madkiki wrote: Quote: Nicholas, any set is a good start to begin practicing; some magicians even use teacups, coffe mugs, clear glasses wrapped in news-paper, etc. I have several sets of cups now, but have recently bought 3 of the Adams Magic plastic cups for about $4.00 each and divided them into "same color" categories so as to get a full set of red ones like Bill Malone uses for his "Rub-A-dub-dub Cups & Balls" trick on his DVD "Here I Go Again" Vol.: 1. I find that getting the experience is just as important as the cups I use. However, that being said, if you can, scrape up the cash to buy a good set. S.R.On 2008-07-27 14:26, Nicholas Spade wrote:
"In the land of Murphy there is but ONE law!"
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puggo Inner circle 2022 Posts
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I am a relatively recent convert to cups and balls, having performed a short chop cup routine for a while. I decided to commit to spending the time learning & practicing C&B, because as Café members pointed out on another thread, if you know C&B, then you can improvise & perform nearly anywhere.
I am yet another who would vouch for the excellent Ammar DVDs, which I use for reference when I need to really check a move in detail. I did find inspiration for the routine I am building in Carl Andrews table hopping cups and balls (good DVD, but not a patch on Ammar for quality and clarity of instruction), and David Williamson's excellent C&B routine ('Slight of Dave' I think). I am not performing C&B yet, but am enjoying the practice trying to get my routine spot on. Good luck! |
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The Old Man Regular user 137 Posts
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On 2008-08-01 12:11, Pete Biro wrote: Which, BTW, they are selling for $12.50 free ground shipping. I think that's quite a deal. |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24314 Posts
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Michael Vincent has been working on a new DVD for a couple of years. I got a copy in today's mail. I'll review it here very soon.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts
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Rafael Benatar has a good one too.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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fortasse Inner circle 1201 Posts
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The original poster on this thread is brand new to C&B. For complete beginners this, I don't think any instructional material comes close to Michael Ammar's DVD set "The Complete Cups & Balls" and the book of the same name.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24314 Posts
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I agree; however, Michael Vincent's new DVD may be a really good "next" DVD, or perhaps even a good basic DVD. It's called "Cups and Balls -- Evolution of a Classic."
Posted: Aug 3, 2008 1:09pm I just posted a review of Michael Vincent's latest DVD, "The Cups and Balls -- Evolution of a Classic" here: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......um=111&0 I would say it is a great second or third DVD to have in order to understand how to work out your own routine based on information you have previously learned. There is a lot of teaching on it, as far as the details of how certain sleights should be performed, but you really should know your sleights before you get these DVD's. It's a two DVD set.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
gaddy Inner circle Agent of Chaos 3528 Posts
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On 2008-08-01 12:12, Pete Biro wrote: True that! I am still unlearning all the stuff I learned in order to make the cups and balls my own. If you start with the very most basic concepts of the C&Bs -"One Ahead" and "Final Load When They're Not Looking", you can go quite far without any guidance at all. I realize this is a very ambitious proposal for a complete novice....
*due to the editorial policies here, words on this site attributed to me cannot necessarily be held to be my own.*
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fortasse Inner circle 1201 Posts
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Thanks for your review, Bill. This is very helpful. I'll be sure to order a DVD set soonest.
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