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On 2008-08-07 07:09, Sir Richard wrote:
I didn't know that about the "Danny Dew/Paul Fox cups Bill. As I said earlier perhaps "availability" should also be a consideration. BTW, who carries the aforementioned Cups? R.S.


Since they no longer manufactured -- haven't been in almost three decades -- the primary source for them is the used magic market. Auctions, used magic dealers and collectors is where you will find them.

So basically, nobody carries them. OTOH, Jake makes some very good reissues of said cups.
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Sir Richard,

I'd like to see exact measurements for all cups listed.

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On 2008-08-07 18:54, Levity wrote:
Sir Richard,

I'd like to see exact measurements for all cups listed.

G

I think that's not a bad idea, also what size "final load" the cups are supposed to handle as the measurements themselves might be misleading depending on the actual shape of the cup. S.R.
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If you know that a cup is a rounded top cup, you automatically have an idea of the relative size of the load to the cup. The final load size measurements on the museum site are practical to the extent that they tell you how large a ball will fit, with the exception of very large cups.

Most cups and balls routines end with a final load of larger balls, fruit or something similar. If you know what you want to produce, you can eliminate a large number of items that are available.

A rounded top cup, such as a Paul Fox cup, can take a larger load than a traditional cup of the same size, because the bottom part of the PF cup is basically a cylinder that goes up past the widest part of the load ball. Then the rounded section goes on, and simply provides a stopping point for the load. If the cylindrical section is too short, then the ultimate size of the load ball will be smaller, given the same diameter of the cylindrical section.

The traditioal cup does not have as efficient a load handling capability, because its cross section is basically a trapezoidal sitting on top of a rectangle. The amount of taper of the trapezoidal section and the height of the rectangular section determine the maximum size of round object that can go into the cups.
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