Hi Guys, How you doin ?

I'd like to know your opinion on following situation.

As we know many magicians have unpublished routines officially (I mean the routines are not on any notes or DVDs or books) and of course the magician sometimes perform it for other fellow magicians.

Just say few fellow magicians who saw it can do that exact routine.

What do you think is the correct ethic if those fellow magicians want to perform the routine ?

Cheers
Andre

That's easy--don't.

If you have to ask, you already know the answer.

It's simple... ask the guy who showed it to you. If he says yes, do it. If he says no, don't.

Depends on whether they understand that such things are not to be shown to magicians or published or even discussed with other magicians. If they can treat what they saw as something to be kept in trust for the person whose routine it is ... fine.

No firm answer here. But, here's my rules of thumb:

Situation #1: I session with a number of magicians and there is an understanding that the magic shown by someone is mainly to help the presenter to hone the routine(s) and, as such, is not to be performed by others without permission of the presenter.

I take this a step further and do not even ask permission to perform something that I saw and that I really liked. Why so? Because I feel that if the presenter did not voluntarily grant permission on his own volition, he must not have wanted others to perform it. And, if you ask, you put both of you (him and you) in a very awkward position. He might feel that he has to grant you permission and then he feels pi**ed for having been placed in that position or, if he says "no", then he feels that such refusal might ruin the dynamics of the group and the sessions. It also might cause him to hold back on trying out other material and/or sharing other material with the group.

Situation #2: With another group I session with, it is a really free wheeling group and is essentially a group brainstorming session and that every one is contributing on a group project. In that case, we all feel that anything so developed is free to be used by each and every member of the group. But, occasionally one of this group's members will trot out "one of his babies" for input and suggestion. In those caes, we implictly recognize that that material is not being offered or shared for subsequent group use and we are into situation #1, above.

Situation #3: You are asked to review a manuscript and/or offer suggestions and/or to edit or proof read the manuscript. As such, there is an absolute duty of confidentiality. By doing any of the above (reviewing, editing, proofreading, etc.), you absolutely are not free to utilize any of the information gleaned from such activity(ies) without the express permission of the author. To do so breaks a fiduciary duty and the trust implicit in such relationship.

That's how I handle it. Your mileage may vary.