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Hello,

I am new to the forum and I am a Clinical Hypnotherapist.
I was always curious about the Rapid inductions as I never used or learned them outside of training for trauma victems.

What is the best rapid induction? How does the technique work? and how deep can you take the subject with it?
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Hi Hypnodoc,

good to hear that you are curious about rapid inductions. My advice is to find one or two and use them in your therapy room.

There is no one that is best. Just master one or two and bring your intention to hypnotise to it.

Some techniques seem to be based on confusion or a pattern interrupt or something else. My view is that it is not the technique that hypnotizes, the hypnotist does. Theory is great to know but in practice the fact that you do what you do with purpose is so much more important. So do not concern yourself with theory too much. Create expectation. Deliver the technique with confidence. Make it your intention to hypnotize. You can use it in the knowledge that you can always fall back into your progressive approach. But you won't need to. You can take them to the same place/state/intensity/depth, you can using any progressive method, if not more so.

I suggest you start with an induction that is well documented and researched. Elman Induction is freely available on the internet - although it is not that rapid. The Rehearsal Induction is great too. You can find that illustrated on my channel on youtube, see antonmes on youtube.

There are many rapid inductions perfectly suited to the therapy room. The two I have mentioned are just two examples. Happy to answer your questions.

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On 2008-08-18 16:57, hypnodoc wrote:
Hello, I am new to the forum and I am a Clinical Hypnotherapist.
I was always curious about the Rapid inductions as I never used or learned them outside of training for trauma victems. What is the best rapid induction? How does the technique work? and how deep can you take the subject with it?


Welcome!

Depends upon context and the personality of the trance partner, the circumstances, and the impression you wish to convey (either clinically or for performance). Some are active and look powerful while others are more passive and gentle. Learn a number of them and then give yourself permission to play with them.

Also, keep in mind that suggestibility effects can and are rapid inductions in their own right.

For reference, there are a number of them listed in the page at http://www.briandavidphillips.com/products/core.html . . . as you are an experienced hypnotist, you can also discuss rapid and instant inductions with the folks at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypnosisTechniqueExchange (the archives are a treasure trove of info).

Since these are short and easy to learn, there really is no reason to look for a single best one. Experiment and learn a number and then see which ones tend to resonate with your own style. I tend to use my own variation of the Elman induction as my solid induction but have a few instants that I will also use depending upon the circumstances, such as my arm pull variant, the hand drop, or the like. For entertainment, I often use the handclasp induction. Lately, for walkabout trance street hypnosis and for playing around in public, I will use suggestibility effects as inductions as well as creative inductions (an improv activity where one spontaneiously creates a brand new induction based upon a challenge from someone else - when I teach classes, this is an activity all of my students learn to do). The youtube at http://www.youtube.com/user/briandavidphillips has a slew of videos (or just go to my webpages for the video page).

There is no wrong induction or one that is perfect, there is only the induction that suits you in that moment.

Good luck!

All the best,
Brian
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I am new to hypnosis and would like to learn it. I have been to a show and have gotten hypnotised and also read Stage Hypnotism by Ormand McGill and read a book called Clinical Hypnosis. I would like to learn rapid inductions but don't know what products or where to buy from.
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On 2008-08-19 22:19, bentley wrote:
I am new to hypnosis and would like to learn it. I have been to a show and have gotten hypnotized and also read Stage Hypnotism by Ormand McGill and read a book called Clinical Hypnosis. I would like to learn rapid inductions but don't know what products or where to buy from.


Anthony Jacquin's Reality is Plastic: Impromptu Hypnosis has some good pointers for folks looking for street work http://www.anthonyjacquin.com/products.html while Richard Nongard and John Cerbone's DVD http://www.subliminalscience.com has speed trance that can also be adapted to stage or street.

There is a LOT of material out there.

Obviously, I am partial to my own program at http://www.briandavidphillips.com/products/core.html which is a comprehensive course in hypnosis. It's not a hypnotherapy course but a hypnosis course. While you could just get the instant and rapid inductions dvd separately, I would recommend that you look into the full package as the suggestibility effects disc is very useful for rapid induction work as well. As a beginner, the full program certainly would not be a bad thing.

All the best,
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Thank you for the information I have joined the group you suggested on Yahoo
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Thank you for the information I have joined the group you suggested on Yahoo


Roll up your sleeves and dig deep to mine the archives of past messages, there is a LOT of information there.

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Hey Brian and Anthony,

I didn't realize so many of my hypnothoughts friends we're here. The thing to remember about Inductions is anything can become a induction with the proper set up. The set up is really the most important part as Anthony and Brian mention Expectation is just so important. Many beginners always want to try to copy a induction down to the exact movement, angle of arm pull or whatever. This in reality, really doesn't play much of part. Just set it up right, build expectation and be confidence. You can't go wrong with advice from Brian or Anthony.

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Our reality is nothing more than perception. So if this is the case, is there any such thing as reality since our perception is always changing?
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Great info from Brian and Antony there.

There is something really important about doing a rapid induction that I think most people fail to realise (and probably why they are 'feared' and treated with misunderstood suspicion).

The actual induction itself is NOT a magic technique that 'puts the brain into sleep mode' or 'hypnosis' or renders people as automatic suggestible zombies. I think people get this idea from watching pros, and not realising the subtleties of what follows.

The rapid induction is a way to suddenly increase the suggestibility of a person - but not necessarily all the way into somnambulism (or whatever you want to call it). Its important to continue and reinforce the suggestible state with all the suggestions that follow, compounding and building into whatever it is you want to achieve. The level of post-induction suggestion that is needed is negatively correlated with the amount of positive expectation you have successfully installed in the persons mind beforehand.

Taking Gil Boyne as an example, he doesn't just yank a person forward whilst shouting 'sleep' then stand back and give a bunch of post-hypnotic suggestions hoping they'll take hold. He rolls their head, whilst giving further suggestions for relaxation etc, then does an Elman-esque eye closure on their already closed eyes, then floppy arms, and maybe more until they are well and truly in a very suggestible state.
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Great thread, I just found it.

Brian has a great topic here also from a question I asked him (although I should have better explained my question):

http://briandavidphillips.typepad.com/br......afe.html
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I find most of these threads funny. Most of them are the equivilant of walking into a magic shop, and thinking that you are buying a technique for actually dematerialising a card, and having it reappear in your wallet. Thinking that this ACTUALLY HAPPENS is what most guys are doing.

My lord people the BEAUTY of hypnosis is the simplicity with which it is executed. The very LACK of technique is the mystique of the medium. But no, hypnotists insist on wanting to make it more than it really is.

I am not saying don't learn but man there are limits to things. Educate yourself but EDUCATE YOURSELF! Looking for some idiotic magic formula is not educating yourself in the least. Will's example is a great one.

In the end like it or not ladies and gents, it is still up to THEM whether they go into hypnosis or not! If they don't want too, NOTHING YOU CAN SAY OR DO will change this little fact. Anyone who wants to challenge me on this simply come by and try to put me into trance when I don't want too. I will happily bet 10 grand that you can not.
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On 2008-08-18 16:57, hypnodoc wrote:
Hello,

I am new to the forum and I am a Clinical Hypnotherapist.
I was always curious about the Rapid inductions as I never used or learned them outside of training for trauma victems.

What is the best rapid induction? How does the technique work? and how deep can you take the subject with it?


Have you tried "zap"? You can go very deep with that one.
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I don't see it as forcing it on anyone. Just sometimes rapid is the way to go. It is flashy and creates attention. People line up after they see this. The end result is of course the same but you are bringing them deeper covertly (not against the will but counting them down quietly one on one etc). Not magic, just more dramatic is all.

For therapy, PMR or whatever technique. For street and stage I humbly disagree. People have short attention spans. Entertainment!

PS: Back up the truck, buy all the DVDs (Sean, John, Richard, Brian) and books out there, learn from the best. Go to seminars. My nickel.

Respectively submitted,

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Candin, what exactly is your background in theater and entertainment?

The very idea that you personally think it is more dramatic tells me my answer really. But in the mainstream of the world, it is less believable.
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Danny, might I ask why you offered a challenge to have people try to "force" you into a trance when that was not brought up in this thread at all (aside from your own post, that is)? The thread is about rapid inductions and how they work, not about nonconsensual hypnosis.

One might almost think you had anti-hypnosis tendencies. Smile

Also, why don't you think rapid inductions are more dramatic and flashy than a lengthy PMR induction? If they aren't, why are those inductions searched for on YouTube, etc. more often than traditional ones?

I'm not sure how someone's theater experience affects their ability to consider one thing more dramatic than another ...

As far as believability goes, isn't that why most stage hypnotists who use instants seem to follow them with another "official" induction? Because there are some people who won't believe that hypnosis can happen that quickly.

Joshua

PS. I may regret this post, but I had to challenge the false assumptions I saw in your post. Smile
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Candin, what exactly is your background in theater and entertainment?

The very idea that you personally think it is more dramatic tells me my answer really. But in the mainstream of the world, it is less believable.


Classclown and went to the movies a lot as a kid.

Ouch, agree to disagree. Not starting a fight here.
Sometimes we forget what it is like to be a spectator. I don't entertain magicians, mentalists, hypnotists. I survey people from all walks and see what they like to see.

Granted I don't have the knowledge 99 percent here do but having a love for what I do and appealing to the audience (paid or nonpaid) is what I bring to the table. No fame, just performing.

Best

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On 2009-05-08 13:10, silverfire9 wrote:

Also, why don't you think rapid inductions are more dramatic and flashy than a lengthy PMR induction? If they aren't, why are those inductions searched for on YouTube, etc. more often than traditional ones?

As far as believability goes, isn't that why most stage hypnotists who use instants seem to follow them with another "official" induction? Because there are some people who won't believe that hypnosis can happen that quickly.

Joshua




I could not agree more. I may be one of the minority (doubt it) but I think speed inductions attract attention in a big way. So big, most think they are stooged.
Heck, a stage hypnosis show is great but if I can just introduce a few speed inductions into my alien act, I will be satisfied. I just left two 6th grade mentalism shows and the kids were begging me to hypnotize them. Seeing them with glazed eyes after opening with vertigo, moving onto magic fingers, hands etc really made me want to grab one of their hands and doing a tug (not a yank out of the socket pull). Sigh.......

Onto to more DVD shopping I go.

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I have over 20 years experience with hypnosis in general and have lost count of the audiences and shows I have done. I also remember my early influences as a kid going to see shows.

I can honestly say that rapid inductions are more impressive to audiences IF and this is the if - they are done theatrically.

But as I have said countless times before they aren't really inductions. At best they are either pre-inductions or part of an induction.

I think the reason they have impact is that gives the audience false impression that the hypnotist has some power. Even if he disclaims it. Much like lay people will still think you are psychic even if you tell them ou aren't after a mentalism show.

Audience want magic and mystery. And in most people's minds a "rapid induction" gives that.

In general progressive relaxation and long periods of hypno speak is boring to watch. On the other hand a rapid induction without building it up as a piece of theatre is a lost opportunity to have a strong impact on the audience.
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I forgot to mention Anthony earlier. His rapids are also fantastic.

Although I know how to do them, Hypno-Sculptures I will reserve comment here on an open forum. I know it would start a war.

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Go on start a war!

You know it makes sense.
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