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JohnCressman Special user Allentown, PA 903 Posts |
So, I bit the bullet and decided to dive head first into the deep in with no swim suit. I signed up for Geoff's training in Sept and am really hoping it will give me the tools I need to start doing hypnotism shows!
Any other resources, books, etc. anyone would recommend as a prelude to the training? |
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ns Loyal user Canada 238 Posts |
Although I like to learn from many sources, if you choose to follow Geoff Ronnings teachings closley you'll see he recommends you only learn from one teacher. Still you can't go wrong with McGill
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Nongard1 Special user 664 Posts |
Ronning is a friend of mine, and we cross sell products. You will enjoy his trianing and get a lot out of it. I do not recommend the outdated McGill stuff, Ronnings book on Stage Hypnosis is better (expet for historical purposes)
Check out my DVD's by clicking the banner at at the top, and when you are in Vegas, make sure you see every stage show you can.
Dr. Richard Nongard, Professional Hypnosis Training
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JohnCressman Special user Allentown, PA 903 Posts |
Any recommendations on stage shows to see?
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Nongard1 Special user 664 Posts |
9pm at Paris Anthony Cool (Very Adult Show) (I can't remember what night he is dark)
9pm at KRAVE at Planet Hollywood "Hypnosis Unleashed" with Terry Tokes and Michael Johns (7 nights a week) 8pm Monday nights Only Dr. Scott Lewis (or Kellie Karl) at Riviera I think Marc Sevard closed his show, but perhaps he will pop on the board and correct this, or tell us his new location...
Dr. Richard Nongard, Professional Hypnosis Training
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MagicalPirate Special user Shamokin, PA 828 Posts |
So refreshing to see this type of thread not devolve into a bashing of trainings. I haven't been to a live training but I do own Geoff Ronnings Home Study Course which is basically a video of one of the past trainings. I also own a lot of other products he sells. I highly recommend Geoff and believe you will come away with what you are looking for. I also agree his new book is a great investment.
Martin
Martin Blakley, CSH, DASH, CMSA
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hypnodoc New user WA 64 Posts |
Personally I like to learn from as many sources as I can but a solid base, I feel is very important
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
I believe you get out of anything what you put into it. Lets take away names and topic and pretend card magic for a second shall we?
If you buy the absolute undisputed best book on card tricks, and never work for a second at it, how good will you become at them? Now let us apply that theory to hypnosis. IF you think that simply buying any sort of material from anyone will make you an "add water instant hypnotist" you are dead wrong. But used properly, (please read those 3 words carefully) I am sure Geoff's course will provide a foundation to begin a journey which will make you a hypnotist. But the work does not stop there, and I do not believe Geoff himself EVER said it does right? I think this is the most important part of the concept. It is not ANY author's fault if you don't put in the work. (Martin was that non bashing? I hope so!)
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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mindpunisher Inner circle 6132 Posts |
Whats that got to do with card tricks?
You can get trick decks that do all the work for you.. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Yea, but will that make you a magician? Thanks for making my point MP.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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bobser Inner circle 4178 Posts |
Jeez, great to see you two finally working together!! I've got a tear in my eye.
Bob Burns is the creator of The Swan.
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mindpunisher Inner circle 6132 Posts |
My point was that your analogy was wrong. Cards trick deck or otherwise would make anyone a magician.
A course/book or training of any kind is judged first by the content and secondly its practicality and the results it produces for the those that buy them. Danny the work never stops....your either growing or your dying. A law of nature buddy... |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Well in your case your either complaining or dying.
My point was that many will bash things when they get bad results. BUT if you expect the wrong thing you can not blame the writer. Geoff or ANYONE. It is a journey he sets you upon. It is up to you to continue, and in what direction.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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bobser Inner circle 4178 Posts |
Ah, that's better. Thought I was loosing my mind for a moment back there.
Bob Burns is the creator of The Swan.
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mindpunisher Inner circle 6132 Posts |
Danny
Actually in some cases you can blame the author if they make exaggerated claims that do not live up to the reality. Or leave important details out or give you outdated or even dangerous information. To say you can never blame an author is very niave. Since you like analagies.... If some one sent you on a journey and gave you the wrong map would you not blame them for not reaching the promised destination? Or would you keep your mouth shut for fear of being set upon by the map sellers faithful baying hounds? Hey its good to have you back... You make me look good! |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Whose job is it to buy the right map MP? Oh wait it is the SELLER BE WARE right. Sorry.
Yep take no responsability yourself, blame others for your inadequicies. Yep. My bad spelling is the fault of my TEACHER and not the fact that I am lazy! THANK GOD! I was starting to worry some. Show me where claims are made and not lived up to, provided the work is put in. I am no defender of these sorts of courses, but I am saying it takes a ton of work beyond buying them. I think that is made clear by the sellers. I KNOW RICHARD makes that very clear. But by all means keep whining and complaining, I am sure it helps to sell DVD stuff for both of them.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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JohnCressman Special user Allentown, PA 903 Posts |
I see my simple post has degenerated into a philosophical debate on where to place blame.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Yes, and is sad as Martin indicated it often degrades like this unfortunatly.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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mindpunisher Inner circle 6132 Posts |
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On 2008-09-03 06:00, mindpunisher wrote: Read it again Danny I said to NEVER blame an author is niave. I never trust any one source of information as being the last word on anything. Once again you jump on my posts and project your own stuff onto them. I am only stating what is a cold universal fact. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Dude you have issues. Do you have the course? If not then maybe not commenting is in order.
If so then give spacifics but lets keep it positive.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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