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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts |
If you want to use it or part of it, be my guest. I just would appreciate if you could PM me to let me know what you did with it.
Magic is the art of emotionally sharing live impossible situations
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MarceloElGrande New user 78 Posts |
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On 2009-01-17 20:14, Lawrence O wrote: Thank you very much Lawrence Marcelo
"A day without sunshine is like, you know, night." (Steve Martin)
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nathanallen Special user Des Moines, Iowa, USA 522 Posts |
Nuts.
I thought I was original, and found out I wasn't. Last night at a show, I did my "vanish" of a signed bill via a failed "Bank Night" premise, in which the unchosen envelopes are burned (the chosen envelope is supposed to contain the bill but doesn't, meaning the bill must be in one of the burning envelopes). Told a magician friend about my brilliance this afternoon... And he told me that's what Mac King does. I haven't seen Mac do that, so here's my question... Does this make me look like a Mac-King-wannabe? Or is this "bank night" premise common for burned-bill routines? Thanks for your feedback, -Nathan
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jprace Inner circle 2209 Posts |
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Mac_Stone Inner circle Miami, FL 1420 Posts |
Nathan, It is originally a Terry Seabrooke idea and yes it is quite the norm for impossible location routines. I guess most of us aren't really original.
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts |
Is the point to be original or is it to be entertaining?
Yes our ego feels better when we have "found" something, but isn't magic about audiences rather than about performers? So my question would be was your script original and entertaining? Because this is what audiences will remember. I did a test recently with a younger magician. I had him watch Whit Haydn's color changing knives routine. Naturally he loved it (who wouldn't?). Then I asked him first what were the moves in there. Naturally he mentionned, even without thinking and with a semi interogative voice, the paddle move. Then I asked him if he noticed the other moves: he said no (there aren't many new methods in Whit's routine). Then I asked him to list the effects in the routine. He couldn't. This demonstrated that he had mentioned the paddle move just by culture rather than observation and that when entertainment is there NO ONE, even a young magician looking for methods, CARES any more about the method. How could they? The magical entertainment makes it that they don't even realize distinctly the effects: they only realize that this entertaining piece do not follow the natural laws they are holding for true and that this doesn't make it threatening. I could have made the same demonstration with Albert Goshman coins and salt shakers which are nothing more nothing less than a very simple cups and balls routine... or about René Lavand's Breadcrumbs which are nothing more nothing less than a two in the hand and one in the pocket repetitive routine. Both are entertainment masterpieces nevertheless. My point is that it is easy, in principle, to be original: forget about differences in methods, search for differences in presentation and entertainment. Don't let other magicians focus on the method and put you off balance by wanting to be smart in showing off their culture (which can often be large), put THEM off balance with an original presentation delivered with great acting. It's more dificult than finding a new method, but it's more fun to create, more fun to practice and much more fun to perform.
Magic is the art of emotionally sharing live impossible situations
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MarceloElGrande New user 78 Posts |
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On 2009-01-20 06:56, Lawrence O wrote: 100% agree!!! Marcelo
"A day without sunshine is like, you know, night." (Steve Martin)
"We are all amateurs, life is too short for us to be anything else" (Charlie Chaplin) |
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Comet Loyal user 235 Posts |
For me it's the signed bill in the tomato. yes tomato let me explain lol. I first do the vanishing catsup bottle. I have the catsup vanish from the bottle and I end up with an empty real bottle and a tomato. of course they figure out that the (Neilson)bottle is still in the bag till wad the bag up and toss it into my case I will leave the empty glass bottle and tomato out during the show. the signed bill ends up inside of the tomato. I do offer to sell these (special) tomato seeds after the show. :0)
Enjoy!! Joe |
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Max Krause V.I.P. I should be creating magic with my 1188 Posts |
I don't use a signed bill but I do use the serial number as identification. I actually send them an envelope via priority mail that they are supposed to bring to the show. The night of the performance I borrow a bill and it "accidently" gets destroyed. Of course in the end the spectator I sent the priority mail envelope to opens it up and finds the bill with the matching serial number which coincidently also happens to be the numerical equivalent of their birthday. For example:
F 11191971 D which is my birthday. I call it birthday B.T.I.L. This of course is only the tip of the iceberg of what you can do. Max
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Miraclemakers Special user INA 685 Posts |
Emergency cash by Shufton Magic......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMU2K69aQHA Easy to do and fun to perform....... |
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deliveryboy Regular user 104 Posts |
Wherever it ends up the routine needs to be entertaining with the location being the iceing on the cake.
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Brett Sirrell Magician New user 77 Posts |
Years ago I saw a good bill in monkey nut. I am sure it was in an Ammar lecture. A two bills were borrowed and torn and half of each handed back. cant remember much but the ending was along the lines of; the magician then gets a nut chosen from a bag of monkey nuts. Inside the nut were the other two halves.
Anyone know this?
Brett Sirrell Magician and entertainer
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puggo Inner circle 2022 Posts |
This (bill to monkey nut) can be found in Ammar's 2004 revised lecture notes (probably elsewhere as well).
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B Hackler Special user 778 Posts |
Sounds like the rountine with the 100 dollar bill switch on Ammar money miracles volume 2 I believe. I could be wrong but I think it is.
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Fred Johnson Regular user 110 Posts |
Doc Eason Bill in Lemon. I also like Mike Caveny's signed Bill to Cigar.
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Doc Eason V.I.P. Aspen Colorado 429 Posts |
Steve Spill is the originator of the routine that I have on L&L tapes which I DID receive permission for.
Doc
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Cameron Francis V.I.P. 7025 Posts |
I'm kind of surprised only one person has mentioned my Fresh Mint routine. It came out in booklet form two years ago and is now available as a video download and (very soon) a dvd. Got really nice reviews in both Genii and Magic. I'm not trying to toot my own horn but this effect is super practical and a table hopper's dream as it instantly resets and takes up very little pocket space.
It also meets all the criteria. 1. Doesn't use fruit. 2. The impossible location is in view BEFORE the bill is vanished. 3. No burning (I have discovered there are many substitutes for this). 4. The bill has GOT to be SIGNED. Here's the effect (from the ad copy) You display a small tin, wrapped in a rubber band, bearing the words 'TIME CAPSULE' - this is left in full view. A spectator signs their own bill (any currency) and hands it to you. Placing it inside your fist you give it a little squeeze and incredibly, the bill completely vanishes! Or did it? You go on to explain that you actually sent the bill back in time! The tin is opened and inside is discovered a 'Tic-Tac' box through which can clearly be seen a folded bill! The 'Tic-Tac' box is dumped into your hand. You pop the lid off and cleanly dump the bill into your spectators awaiting hand - the box is now clearly empty. They unfold the bill and sure enough, it bears their signature! There's a trailer on my site: http://cameron-francis.com/Fresh-Mint--a......romo.php I'm also doing a pre-order special for the dvd.
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Fred Johnson Regular user 110 Posts |
Sounds okay for table-hoppers, how does it play on stage?
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puggo Inner circle 2022 Posts |
Oops!
Sorry Cameron.. I brought the 'Freshmint' PDF, have actually used it (can't see why I forgot it in earlier posts..), and it does do exactly what the ad copy states. It can also be used for a signed playing card, and having picked up a few things from Cameron, can thoroughly recommend the service / backup (check reviews elsewhere on the Café if you need further proof!) As for Fred Johnson's question about using it for stage.. well could I suggest(with out meaning any offence) that it depends on the performer? Look what Jeff Hobson does with a 'Hopping Half' set or a 6" silk hanky on stage. Freshmint is a good solid, relatively easy & quick to set up trick. Well worth a look. Charlie PS Does this earn me a beer at Blackpool?!! |
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Fred Johnson Regular user 110 Posts |
No offense taken, thanks for the thought Puggo.
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