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scaress
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Hi,
forgive me for the dumb question, but what is the difference between a sharp and a shark?
Vandy Grift
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To me they were always pretty much synonymous, but I think we had a big long thread about it here once and people draw a distinction. To me a sharp is always a cheat but a shark may or may not be a cheat.

I don't know if there is even a right or wrong answer to your question these days. I think originally "sharp" was more common and it kind of morphed into "shark".

In other words, don't ask me. No matter which way you define it, someone who is smarter and more "in the know" will be along any minute to tell you you have it all wrong. Followed by someone else who will tell them they are all wrong. Followed by... etc, etc, etc.
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Cardshark is wrong and cardsharp is right. Them yanks just can’t talk proper, that‘s the difference. Smile
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artwo
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Shark sounds more threatening and sexy and gets snapped up by the media.


Although I like Vandy's idea that sharps are always cheaters and sharks may not be. I'll go by that one right there.

In fact, a trip to dictionary.com confirms that.

Cardsharp is...

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card·sharp [kahrd-shahrp] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
a person, esp. a professional gambler, who cheats at card games.
Also, cardsharper.

[Origin: 1855–60, Americanism; card1 + sharp]

—Related forms
cardsharping, noun



Whereas card shark...

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card shark
–noun
1. an expert cardplayer.
2. cardsharp.
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
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I really think the whole "card shark" thing came from the term "pool shark".

I think we've all heard of a "pool shark" but have you ever heard of a "pool sharp"? That's what I mean when I say it "morphed". I think in the minds and vocabulary of most people "shark" and "sharp" became one and the same. It may be an American thing, I don't know.

I don't consider a pool hustler to be a cheater. They may play below speed or whatever, but they legitimately make the shots. That's why when I say someone can be a "card shark" and not be a cheater. But to me a "sharp" or "sharper" is a cheater.

I think Tommy is right, "sharp" is older and more correct, but like a lot of things it has changed over time and I think that word "pool shark" had a lot to do with it.
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Sharps and Flats
maturpia
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On cardshark.us there is a brief description of this terms.
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Anyone who preys on others is a shark, regardless of method or morality. A sharp, however, is a shark that uses skill and cheating ability. A shark may give incorrect odds. A sharp will defy the odds.
This is just the way I like to look at it and is not by any means meant to be taken as a fact.
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On 2008-09-25 07:05, The Dowser wrote:
A shark may give incorrect odds. A sharp will defy the odds.


I like this quote. I think it sums it up perfectly. Thanks.
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Here's an interesting article on the subject:

http://timestranscript.canadaeast.com/opinion/article/380580
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Good article, thanks.

"Names, once they are in common use, quickly become mere sounds, their etymology being buried, like so many of the earth's marvels, beneath the dust of habit."


Exactly!
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