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Imagine what our brethren magicians faces hundreds of years ago... Makes you wonder how magic was even done back then, and why people STILL had the drive to perform magic, even in the dark days of the past!
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On 2008-10-08 16:59, gaddy wrote:
Imagine what our brethren magicians faces hundreds of years ago... Makes you wonder how magic was even done back then, and why people STILL had the drive to perform magic, even in the dark days of the past!


This subject fascinates me perhaps more than any other concerning magic. 500 years ago no one was going to be like David Copperfield. So why did they do it?

Sometimes I think that people here at the Café like to see themselves as part of a very ancient tradition, when in fact they go no deeper than to learn a kind of magic that is in fact totally modern. Further: they would probably find the magician of 500 years ago to be ethically problematic, because he probably was grifting as much as entertaining, and he probably NEVER gave a disclaimer....Smile
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On 2008-09-25 22:47, Dynamike wrote:
I can not convince them. One lady told me I sold my soul to the devil.


Why is this a problem?

I have a pretty dark demeanor to begin with so most people think that I sold my soul even before the show begins. I like that. Smile
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On 2008-09-26 13:26, Dynamike wrote:
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On 2008-09-26 11:23, tommy wrote:
The country of Africa is not a country, it is a continent.

I know. My bad. I meant to place a country "in" Africa. Ya kno' wha' I'm say'n?


Yea and you are the only one who can say it in the conversation LOL.

Anyhow try doing hypnosis in Mexico, Jamaica and other such places and see how many "believers" you run into.
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In Mexico they not only have black magic and white magic, but also have red magic, so I was told. I don't get what Red magic is about though. I mean white magic is about doing good stuff and black magic is about doing bad stuff, like putting curses on people etc but what is Red magic about?
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Every autograph request is an attempt at sorcery
Every candle lit on that birthday cake is an attempt at sorcery.
Every appeal to (powers unnamed) is an attempt at sorcery.
Every time we adjudge a lie as "white" we are using sorcery.
Every time we adjudge motives as having greater weight than personal and physical outcomes we are appealing to dark powers to annul the real and replace it with compliance to our will.

Perhaps it is time for some to look in the mirror.
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I knew someone from Haiti who asked me of what I was doing was voodoo or just trickery. He then told me about some of the fantastic things he claimed to have witnessed.
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On 2008-10-12 16:40, Dannydoyle wrote:
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On 2008-09-26 13:26, Dynamike wrote:
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On 2008-09-26 11:23, tommy wrote:
The country of Africa is not a country, it is a continent.

I know. My bad. I meant to place a country "in" Africa. Ya kno' wha' I'm say'n?


Yea and you are the only one who can say it in the conversation LOL.

You got that right dude. And I better be the only one saying it. Ya kno' wha' I'm say'n?
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Dude I'm shocked you got that and impressed and laughed at the answer! cool.
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It is all because I'm not a playa hater because I'm a congratulator. You got me brother?
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Have I ever ran into a sorcery believer?

All the time....

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Sorry about that.
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Thanks...

I'm in Asia, almost everyone believes in it to a certain, alarming, degree...

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On 2008-10-12 17:17, tommy wrote:
In Mexico they not only have black magic and white magic, but also have red magic, so I was told. I don't get what Red magic is about though. I mean white magic is about doing good stuff and black magic is about doing bad stuff, like putting curses on people etc but what is Red magic about?


Red magick is primarily concerned with matters of the heart and to a lesser degree the flesh according to the things I have read about it.

In the end of it all, the color of the magic is meaningless. It is something that some sects who practice magick assign to feel better about their work. Magick should really be a self serving endeavor born of the wizard for whatever purposes suit his needs. The idea of white vs black is borne out of the idea of good and evil, which is quite subjective.

In the spirit of the discussion of this thread, many of the type of people the OP is asking about could potentially view what we do when we do magic as being magick, which to many is considered evil.
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If the catholic church (other Christians maybe?) did not believe in black magic, demons, succubus, etc., would they have official exorcists?

This, by the way, would form a very nice hook for a patter...
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