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jackstevens
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Coin One first method is diabolical. The filming and editing of this DVD is the best of any instructional productions. Artistic, clean, no unecessary talk, easily understandable.
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I bought Coin2 from a Café member and really like it. It brought a whole bunch of new moves to me that I'd never used before.

I bought Coin1 from a Café member. It arrived. I put it somewhere. I've never seen it since. I've literally been looking for it every day in March. I cannot find it.
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On 2009-02-24 22:43, MarkTirone wrote:
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On 2008-10-01 05:31, jmcgrath wrote:
Chris,

You will need a [ and practice, nothing more than that. Personally I prefer Coin Two as everything happens more at chest height, but over all most people seem to prefer Coin One.

Good Luck,

John
THe only coin trick without the coins Smile


Really????

C'mon, this is a basic coin workers tool, you can't even buy a good one for the cost of the DVD/routine. The only coin tricks comming with the coins are the ones that require special, NEW coins. Have you seen Charming Chinese Challenge? NO COINS. How about David Roth or the Coin Seminar DVD's. Again, no coins.

That was just a silly comment.
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I think MarkTirone was referring to something else...The post he was replying to didn't mention coins, only a s***l and practice.

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MarkTirone
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Yes, I was just pointing out the obvious in the context of a joke lol. Sorry for any confusion I might have caused. It was a joke.
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Eric Mead did a beautiful job with CoinTwo on Master of Illusions tonight.
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Two years that CoinOne has been released, I was wondering if there are some nice new handling variations of the original moves... I mean... ideas making the routine more angleproof? Smile
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On 2009-02-24 23:08, Xcath1 wrote:
I have never been crazy about the neck ditch. Seems somewhat obvious to me and I can never get it to stay put anyway. I believe on Coinvention a "bandaid" servante is described and works but still a pain in the neck (no pun intended).


I don't use the bandaid (which I find pretty smart though).
If you want to feel at ease with the neck hold out, use a feint. First vanish a coin at the elbow Slydini style (just with the opposite hand slightly higher) Then do a vanish by the elbow using the neck move, but don't reveal the collected extra coin right away. Make sure to do another effect before. I do a coin through back of the hand with the extra coin (a copper in my case) palmed in the right.

Putting the feint with the intermediary extra effect together, I fooled some well known magician with this bold hold out... joining feints with time misdirection makes sleights more deceptive than you seem to credit them... and I neck load the extra coin just before starting the routine simulating the thinking of what I could do next (passing my hand over my hair and then down to my neck) for them because they are so knowledgeable...

Give it another consideration.
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Yif,
there are several people that have worked out some good alternative moves.
See Covert Coins for some. Charlie Justice has some really good work.

The handlings for Cointwo are all over the place. The routine has been in workers hands for years in the form of extroydinary which came first. Check out Chris Korn's videos for handlings and notes by Eric Jones and Kranzo. eric has a great new video on his handling of it that makes it a whole, complete routine. It is both enjoyable to perform and fun to watch.
Later,
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Yif, to answer your remark, I doubt any handling variations will substantially make CoinOne more angle-proof, as the routine is inherently angle-sensitive because of the b**ck cl***ing. I can't see any way around this problem regarding the angles, except if you get rid of this very technique, in which case it will probably remove a good part of the directness of the routine...

Moreover, in my humble opinion, this routine is best performed with dollars for visibility and clarity reasons BUT at the same time it makes the routine more angle-sensitive than performed with half dollars for instance.

I played with this routine a lot, and under the right conditions (small audience, stand-up and very close to you), it is a real killer. However, as Homer Liwag himself states it in the DVD if I remember correctly, this routine wasn't designed to be for the everyday worker but more for the people who wants to see "something more"...

I find CoinTwo to be much more adapted for the conditions under which I have to perform, as well as more memorable because it is at chest level...so your audience is enjoying at the same time your magic, and you. Isn't it what it's all about ?
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On 2009-03-30 14:26, yif wrote:
Two years that CoinOne has been released, I was wondering if there are some nice new handling variations of the original moves... I mean... ideas making the routine more angleproof? Smile
Charlie Justice has what you are looking for. On his DVD "COvert Coins", there is a really cool ditch from the shell that is engle proof, invisible, and can be done when burning your hands. It is prety much impossible to see.
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Yif use purse palm instead of back clip and your all angle probles are gone and the routinestay as much direct as it was Smile
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Thanks guys, I will check these Smile
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On 2009-04-05 17:47, obuch wrote:
Yif use purse palm instead of back clip and your all angle probles are gone and the routinestay as much direct as it was Smile


HHhmmm?

Where can I learn more about this purse palm you speak of?
Mobius303
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Purse Palm is described in the Stars of Magic under the Dai Vernon routine Spellbound.
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CoinOne is a wonderful effect. Great thinking.
Look forward to any upcoming magic project from Mr Liwag.
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Will there be any projects soon? Haven't seen anything yet... CoinThree maybe? haha
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On Apr 5, 2009, MarkTirone wrote:
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On 2009-03-30 14:26, yif wrote:
Two years that CoinOne has been released, I was wondering if there are some nice new handling variations of the original moves... I mean... ideas making the routine more angleproof? Smile
Charlie Justice has what you are looking for. On his DVD "COvert Coins", there is a really cool ditch from the shell that is engle proof, invisible, and can be done when burning your hands. It is prety much impossible to see.

This is a must have if you're interested in this effect ! There's a ton useful methods for using a ] on this DVD.
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