Saw this video today: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=......lf&hl=en

Some interesting C&B moves I hadn't seen before, including some interesting steals.

I really liked the LAST move...unique I believe. Had never seen that before. Very cool!

I think that last move is also used in Johnny "Ace" Palmer's routine.

Dave McFarland,

That guy has mad skills. He does a very, very original routine! I loved the snot out of it! Thanks for turning me on to it. Great wacky moves.

WOW!
I agree w/ KG, da man gots some chops! Definitely worth investigating and putting in some study time on this one!

Thanks Dave,

Mick

No "new" moves involved, though the execution was excellent. Unfortunately, while the high skill level is evident, the entertainment value is virtually non-existent. It reminds me of a 22-phase ambitious card routine - any lay audience would have to get bored long before the ending (such as it is).

And speaking of ending, where are the final loads? Any performer who understands the performing art of magic knows that the Cups & Balls has nothing to do with tiny red balls and large metal cups. The final loads define any C&B routine, and leaving them out is exactly tantamount to telling a joke, but leaving off the punchline.

TW

I will have to agree with TW about the final loads. I really enjoyed the execution and I was watching in "layman" mode...hoping to see a bang in the end. He did handle it well though.

Dave V is correct...The ending was a Johnny Ace Palmer thing.

Rannie

Once Monsieur 'O' finds this he'll list every source for us!

I was just glad to see someone NOT doing Vernonesque stuff. According to his youtube site he has a complete routine. Just because I'm a insistent kinda guy I've send him a message on youtube, asking, somewhat nicely for a video of the whole McGilla.

I'd rather watch Rannie's routine though. I think I'll go do that.

You do gotta freakin' load some big-uns under the cups. It changes it from a puzzle into . . . Magic!

Sean Farquhar uses that move also.

Sure were a lot of odd "tells" in this routine.

And ZERO entertainment value.

It reminded me of watching someone doing a cooking show.

Yes, the entertainment value was pretty low--at least he was well rehearsed. But I was still impressed with some of the moves, there were several unusual steals from the cups to finger p*** that I'd never seen or read about before.

Bill, what were some of the tells that you saw?

A lot of cup slamming for one...

If a C&B routine must be presented without final loads it needs some variety among the sub-effects to keep it interesting.

Here's a link to one such routine that I personally find much more interesting, and I think you'll agree that the use of different colored balls really adds to overall flavor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fNO3obSA7M

Enjoy!
TW

Am I seeing 4 minutes of mainly penetration effects with those balls only?

That's it. Basically, the tells were, among other things, the odd little finger "p***," which he affected while handling the cups. In order to make this less obvious, he affected this fairly consistently. Also, his hand movements were very "swoopy" when he was stacking the cups.

The first time I saw him stack the cups, I thought "He's setting this up to do the elevator move later."

Maybe those really aren't "tells," but they "told" me!

Too many penetrations.

Fun Shop Cups and Balls is a great routine...
Literally jaw dropping....
Thanks TW...

Seemed like the same thing over and over and over again... no variety and no stopping points after each effect. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

This is why I really prefer the Vernon routine.
I have tried many of them but I keep doing the Professor's routine.
So practical and the audience love it!
If it was good for him it will be enough for me......!

Try Edward G. Brown's routine which uses only three balls and is ingeniously constructed from start to finish. It was written up in Abracadabra back in the 40's.

Fortasse

Carl Andrews Table Hopping Cups and Balls is a GREAT 2 Cup Routine! I'm having lots of fun with it!