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karlcheney New user 3 Posts 
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Dave may still be selling but he sure isn't delivering.
My order for silent butler is now 7 weeks old. I've emailed, PM'ed, attempted to call his (disconnected) phone and tried contact via PayPal resolution center. The man is off the radar scope entirely. Be warned. Next week comes filing an official claim. It's a shame... |
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4935 Posts
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Too bad that 7 weeks is past the 45 day deadline for a Paypal complaint. you may be able to contact your credit card company.
Good luck, James Quote: On 2009-05-20 18:42, karlcheney wrote:
Still with the Chinese circus
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Joshua Barrett Inner circle Cincinnati, Ohio 3631 Posts
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Silent butler indeed heh
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Magical Dimensions Inner circle 5001 Posts
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Hello Everyone,
I will go to my video demo on YouTube and write a post for people NOT TO BUY the Silent Butler because of the lack of service. He doesn’t even answer my e-mails. I am sorry to everyone who bought the Silent Butler due to seeing my video performance. If my performance was the deciding factor in you buying this, I apologize. I was in the process of making a DVD on using the Silent Butler, including my (I think) improvements. I have developed routines that were much enhanced due to the Silent Butler. From close-up, table magic, and yes a few mentalism routines. I have a very cool deck switch that I now do in my toss out deck routine. I have the story board written and drawn, but when I started hearing people complaining about the lack of service, I thought better, and didn’t want to be an addition to the problem. So the DVD is now dead in its tracks…… Sorry…. Ray Noble |
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lunatik Inner circle 3225 Posts
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Ray, maybe you can still release the dvd for the people who still own it? sell it for a fair price and I think it'll fly off the shelves!
"Don't let your Dreams become Fantasies"
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Silvio Solaris Inner circle Xtreme Magic 1110 Posts
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I am definatively interested in the toss out deck switcharoo...
Magical Wishes
Silvio Solaris 'Is all that we see and seem but a dream within a dream?' E.A.Poe |
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ftlum Special user Roseville, CA 730 Posts
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Ray, please keep up with your DVD! I worked a long time on coming up with a belly servante of my own (I actually us a Workeroo now) and would love to learn some more routines and techinques! Tommy Wonder describes the workings of a basic belly servante for those who wish to make something (basic) for themselves.
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MaxfieldsMagic Inner circle Instead of practicing, I made 3009 Posts
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Ray -
Another vote for the DVD, if you can still do it. You owe it to us, Ray, after leading us like sheep into this scam... 
Hate to admit it, but I'm not even sure I set the thing up right. There were a couple of areas on the instruction sheet that seemed a little ambiguous, and the mimeographed blurry black blobs that were presumably supposed to be photos didn't help much either. The SB add-ons came with no instructions whatsoever. But you obviously can make this prop come alive, so I'd bet most SB owners (and possibly even Workeroo owners) would be very interested in hearing and seeing anything you have to offer regarding set-up and handling. - Scott "Maxfield"
Now appearing nightly in my basement.
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wise owl Special user Australia 721 Posts
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Looking forward for your DVD, Ray.
Although I checked magic-cafe very often, would you pls PM me when it is out? It is something too good to miss. thanks |
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jonnyboy Inner circle San Diego 1021 Posts
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I have to say I didn't even set mine up because the instructions were nearly incomprehensible and the photos were no help. I can't understand someone who markets something, but doesn't take an hour to write up understandable and helpful instructions. Happens all too often. I'm ready to get rid of it, but would love to see a good DVD on it. Would be well worth it, if one can get it to look close to Ray's handling.
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4935 Posts
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I remember when I ordered David Mann's Rose to silk. The instructions said;
"Look at the way the rose is rolled and just do that again to set it up." Mine came unrolled during shipping and I emailed David. He said he was thinking about doing a forum for that but had not got around to it. Total burn. James
Still with the Chinese circus
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John Long Inner circle New Jersey 2826 Posts
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Any update on this?
Breathtaking Magic;
Not Breath Taking |
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Nick-V. Special user Create and Devastate 817 Posts
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On 2009-05-21 20:38, Silvio Solaris wrote: Same here, bro!
Peace on the Magical Streets
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B Hackler Special user 778 Posts
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Is precision magic still in business?
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Vorezo Loyal user 248 Posts
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From the looks of his site ( http://www.precisionmagicman.com )...No. He will probably be back soon?
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hboy Regular user 152 Posts
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Is the website closed?
any dvd instruciton for this trick? I heard it will publish it before. Does anyone have further news? |
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cheekychap Regular user 141 Posts
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On 2009-05-26 00:03, Xiqual wrote: id like to here on this David Mann's Rose to silk too, as I bombed out aswell 
theres a post here on SB :- http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......orum=109 |
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greatchach New user Texas 82 Posts
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I guess I'm one of the few who did actually receive mine, (but having not had the chance to use it I've decided to sell it). The instructions are not the most thorough I've ever seen, but honestly, it's pretty self explanatory. I'm sure Ray's DVD would add a lot to it, but it's not hard to see how this could be used, once you get a look at it.
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PepeRuizSJ Loyal user Dallas, TX 250 Posts
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Hehe, the reason I never actually performed with this is mainly aesthetic. My body looks weird when I wear it. I guess I also have a practical reason: I don't think it is worth the trouble for the "improvements" it provides to topit work. Poor Dave though, he seemed like he was really trying in the beginning.
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lunatik Inner circle 3225 Posts
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On 2009-05-22 15:34, MaxfieldsMagic wrote: Ray, now that some time has passed, you think you might ponder getting the dvd out?
this is just a teaser! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e7ccV-_Yks
"Don't let your Dreams become Fantasies"
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