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Vraagaard Inner circle Copenhagen, Denmark 1479 Posts |
Seen on Hocus-pocus.com, but can't find any reviews. Anybody who knows about this effect? Comments and reviews would be appreciated.
The Blurb Another classic of magic totally reinvented by Mr. Daba! The magician shows a white handkerchief and by pushing it through his fist the handkerchief CHANGES color into a blue one, then into a red color, blue again and finally white. Show your hands empty all the times! Thanks to the gimmicks employ in this method you don’t need to worry about hiding the gimmick. No Dye Tubes! Perform this effect for close-up, parlor magic, kids magic and more! Comes with three handkerchiefs made by Vincenzo Di Fatta, an instructional DVD with full explanations about the handling and two gimmicks that will allow you to perform this showing your hands always empty! To view a YouTube Media clip of Everything CHANGES, click HERE! |
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Hansel Inner circle Puerto Rico 2492 Posts |
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Vraagaard Inner circle Copenhagen, Denmark 1479 Posts |
The Effect is called "Everything Changes" by Daba and can be seen on hocus-pocus.com
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoNCRikSaQk |
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nonvpro Inner circle 1844 Posts |
The provided link doesn't go anywhere. What am I missing?
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Vraagaard Inner circle Copenhagen, Denmark 1479 Posts |
The provided link to YouTube works fine. Otherwise, go yo YouTube and search for EVERYTHING CHANGES by Mr. Daba.
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magicians Inner circle Teacher and Legend 2898 Posts |
Cute, a couple of sixth fingers with holes in the tips. Been there done that!!
But it is clean. It really is a dye tube converted from the fingers. Dushek and I both had single color change versions in our lectures in the 80's using standard t***btips with holes in the tips. They slip over the pinky or second finger at any time to show hand empty. I could be wrong. But, looks good and is clean. He presents nice "demo". He is missing the boat by not having a three color silk at the end. He states that there are two gimmicks.
Illusionist, Illusionist consulting, product development, stage consultant, seasoned performer for over 35 years. Specializing in original effects. Highly opinionated, usually correct, and not afraid of jealous critics. I've been a puppet, a pirate, a pawn and a King. Free lance gynecologist.
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Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Magic Ian,
One of these days we'll see something new in magic. You think? Bob Sanders Magic By Sander PS --- I'm still dumbfounded by the guy at a recent convention who proudly told me he didn't do any of the old stuff. He only did brand new, modern street magic! (I'm sure he meant new to him! Most of it started before we had streets.) |
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magicians Inner circle Teacher and Legend 2898 Posts |
There is a lot of new and great effects that have come along, and just because I sound like I know it all doesn't mean I'm not dead wrong.
The last time I saw a really clever effect was Fantasio doing a color changing lighter, NOT the shell version, but a really clever and fast change. I love it when the guys on the Café get thrills from new effects (new to them). It means that there is an untapped market. I think if I start going thru the old books and putting effects on DVD or Youtube I can amaze someone with some ancient method and call it new. ---------- By the way, "everything changes" is $30.
Illusionist, Illusionist consulting, product development, stage consultant, seasoned performer for over 35 years. Specializing in original effects. Highly opinionated, usually correct, and not afraid of jealous critics. I've been a puppet, a pirate, a pawn and a King. Free lance gynecologist.
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David Todd Inner circle 2328 Posts |
It's not bad ...
Looks like the set up is probably exactly what Magic-Ian described above. A similar effect was marketed by Jay Scott Berry as "Eclipse" using a modified tt as the dyetube . The ad copy says: "you don’t need to worry about hiding the gimmick. No Dye Tubes! " Honestly now, has anyone ever had trouble hiding a Dye Tube ? Don't run, no one is chasing you. |
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magicians Inner circle Teacher and Legend 2898 Posts |
The use of a dye tube modified TT was in my lecture in 1977, Dushek had a slight different version in the 80's, and Scott Berry I am thinking would be similar to Dusheks but introduced much later.
If anyone can site a modified TT prior to 1977, please advise. ---------- My idea came from the TT's that had suction cups attached thru a hole in the pad of the tip that allowed you to float a lightbulb, or cup. I removed that suction cup, and enlarged the hole to accomodate a silk. The TT they used was a Goblin tip, (very long), so I started to use standard Vernet tips and cut away a slice of the tip tracing the nail line, then cutting a wedge. The Dushek idea actually cut away the nail, but was the similar handling. As creative as Scott berry may be, his was deivative and introduced much later. I sold (sell mine) for $5 with two silks.
Illusionist, Illusionist consulting, product development, stage consultant, seasoned performer for over 35 years. Specializing in original effects. Highly opinionated, usually correct, and not afraid of jealous critics. I've been a puppet, a pirate, a pawn and a King. Free lance gynecologist.
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georgeiglesias New user Miami USA 100 Posts |
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On 2008-10-16 15:28, magicians wrote: Hello guys! Answering the post of our friend "magicians", I will give you the information about the Everything Changes. I am George Iglesias owner of Twister Magic.com a company that represents and distribute exclusively all the product line of Mr. Daba in USA, Europe and Asia besides more than 50 new, original, and creative magic tricks of the market today. I should say that the Everything Changes by Mr. Daba it is a very clever and different idea of performing the color changing silks. It doesn't use a DYE Tube! It doesn't use sixth fingers with holes or without holes on it! The gimmicks and routine are so clever that you will be amaze. Comes with 3 nice silks made by Vinccenzo Di Fatta, two gimmicks and an intructional DVD that will guide you step by step to perform the effect. Once again. It doesn't use a DYE Tube! It doesn't use sixth fingers with holes or without holes on it! Mr. Daba have fooled magicians and laymen with this effect and his handling for this classic of magic, allowing him to show both of his hands empty at all times! You can purchase that directly from our website or visit your favorite Magic shop and ask for one! Best regards. GEORGE IGLESIAS. Manager. http://www.TwisterMagic.com "Magic With a Twist" |
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David Todd Inner circle 2328 Posts |
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On 2008-10-21 01:09, georgeiglesias wrote: Ok, I think Mr. Daba has fooled me then. Now I am intrigued ... no dye tube, no sixth (and by that I am including altered tt) . No TT , yes ? Worth looking at again. I think you have several other good looking items on your website. You may get an order from me today. Thanks for chiming in on this thread. |
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magicians Inner circle Teacher and Legend 2898 Posts |
Excuse me, you are saying it's not a sixth finger-like device? And, as a professional, we would be getting something uniquely different than a flesh toned container that allows the switch? Not that I was that thrilled with the demo, as I have done similar effects by using dye tubes and modified sixth's.
My guess and challenge was due to the last move on the DVD where he shows the right hand empty with just a silk and has something in the hand on the end of the second finger that is longer than that finger should be. This is an accepted move for hiding both TT's and sixth fingers. This discussion is not a layman discussion, it is a group of professionals who are only mildly curious but seriously doubt that there is such a unique device so as to taute it to be that original. Of course, this entire effect can be done with the methods I suggested and other methods. So, the puzzle is what could be radically different unless this is mincing words. If it isn't a modified sixth finger, and it is a double ended tube(s) with non-dye tube handling, is this new or just well performed? The hand was not shown empty at all times in the demo. Posted: Oct 21, 2008 6:39pm Further comments. The attack on your product is not personal. The price seems a bit high for the overall effect. The use of the pinky finger on the first insert of the silk indicates that the size of the opening of the gimmick is in fact pinky diameter. The next, only slightly misleading thing is that you indicate that you can show the hands empty at any time. The changed silk is never removed from the hand, and is allowed to remain in view while the second chamber is used to produce the next color, then of course the clean-up as the blue silk is placed back in the hand and theb white silk and gimmick is removed. The definition of a dye tube dictates that it is that. The addition of a second chamber alongside the first one still makes it a dye tube by definition even tho may not be a conventional one. The clip on the device allowing you to show the palm empty is clever, but once again a bit pricey. I love most of the "can" line, and the new coca cola six pack items. I saw the silk change cola cans in Tampa and was impressed except for the price. Keep up the innovative products, but be it known, that description and comment is highly scrutinized and a free-for-all guesses.
Illusionist, Illusionist consulting, product development, stage consultant, seasoned performer for over 35 years. Specializing in original effects. Highly opinionated, usually correct, and not afraid of jealous critics. I've been a puppet, a pirate, a pawn and a King. Free lance gynecologist.
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ClintonMagus Inner circle Southwestern Southeast 3997 Posts |
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On 2008-10-16 17:48, Bob Sanders wrote: But Bob, there WERE streets when you were young - the Appian Way, Vicus Patricius, etc. Remember the aqueducts?
Things are more like they are today than they've ever been before...
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Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
I remember when they were planning the aqueducts! LOL
Even then I knew it would attract magicians. You know, "Build it and they will perform." Bob Sanders Magic By Sander |
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georgeiglesias New user Miami USA 100 Posts |
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On 2008-10-21 10:01, David Todd wrote: Hello David: Yes there is no dye tubes and sixth fingers involved Thanks for your comment about the website, I think you will like all our magic items! Thanks a lot. George Iglesias CEO TWISTER MAGIC http://www.TwisterMagic.com |
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georgeiglesias New user Miami USA 100 Posts |
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On 2008-10-21 12:48, magicians wrote: Hello "magicians" I understand your curiosity about the method, but I want you to understand that as you know the secret of a trick is also sold at the moment of purchase. You mentioned in the past posts that the trick was accomplished by using a DYE Tube or a couple of sixth fingers with a hole on them and I was clear to clarify the idea saying that indeed there is no DYE tubes to be use or sixth fingers, with or without holes. Remember. that is not only important how a trick is accomplished, but also the handling and presentation involved. Mr. Daba is a good friend of mine and a very respected magician from Argentina. He is not only a creator of magic, but also a magic coach, having trained and being responsible for the success of great magicians of today such as MIRKO, LATKO, SENKO, MEROK and the Mentalism FISM 2nd price Juan Ordeix. I can see clearly how knowledgeable you are in the field of color changing silks and your deductions might not be so far from the method. However as you know it is not my intention to reveal the secret here at this post, for respect to the creator. I can only say that his handling on this trick is completely different and unique and I can assure you the watching the DVD will support what I am saying. Receive best regards. George Iglesias CEO TWISTER MAGIC http://www.TwisterMagic.com Quote:
On 2008-10-21 18:39, magicians wrote: Hello "magicians" Answering your post, with all my respect, as you might agree the price of the product it is established by considering many different factors. You not only get three silks bi Vincenzo Di Fatta, and Instructional DVD and two gimmicks. You also receive years of experience of Mr. Daba performing this trick and handling techniques. In the other side you should consider that this product is completely original in the market, talking about color changing silks and that also the product is coming from Argentina and it is not produced in the States. I want to make clear that in our website, we are very clear not only in our written descriptions but also in our video demos that that is exactly as it is. None of the video demos are retouched, the performance is exactly as it is on the video as it is live in front of your audience. If you see our video demo you will notice that both hands are shown empty at the beginning and at the end of the trick. Of course one hand need to be closed during part of the performance because as you know is making a fist in which the handkerchiefs are entering and changing color, but after that, both hands are shown empty before and after the trick. Once again, I am sorry to tell you that there is no such a thing inside of the trick: NO DYE TUBES INVOLVED! THERE IS NO SIXTH FINGERS INVOLVED WITH HOLE OR NOT HOLE! I also want to thank you and many other people who have contact me about this trick and the interest in the trick and innovative handling We brought an important quantity of Everything Changes to the States and we are completely sold out! Besides of the distribution to other magic shops, a lot of people have bought this product online at our webiste. We will have more available ready to ship on November 4th! I am not going to insist any more on this, as always if somebody wants to find out you can purchase the product at http://www.TwisterMagic.com Thanks a lot for your comments about our products. We actually carry 50 new, original, creative and cool magic tricks from South America to the US, Europe and Asia. Yes the SUPERCAN is a complete set that allow you to do wonderful things with it such as color changing soda cans. liquids passe-passe and over 30 routines. Also the SIX PACK SURPRISE was created by Mr. Daba and myself and I am sure everybody will be talking about that prop soon! It is awesome! You wont believe it! It comes in a Budweiser and Coke version. Best regards for everyone! And I hope that my comments in this topic were helpful! GEORGE IGLESIAS CEO TWISTER MAGIC http://www.TwisterMagic.com |
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magicians Inner circle Teacher and Legend 2898 Posts |
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On 2008-10-22 01:08, georgeiglesias wrote: Well, as you know, any comments (good bad or indifferent) keep the item and subject in conversation. Most likely builds up sales. I understand the reason for the prices when you have to accomodate wholesale and even jobbers, there has to be room for markup. Good luck on your line.
Illusionist, Illusionist consulting, product development, stage consultant, seasoned performer for over 35 years. Specializing in original effects. Highly opinionated, usually correct, and not afraid of jealous critics. I've been a puppet, a pirate, a pawn and a King. Free lance gynecologist.
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ClintonMagus Inner circle Southwestern Southeast 3997 Posts |
It looks nice, regardless of the method employed. Is there a way to finish with a "Half-Dyed Hank"-type finish in which the silk ends up partially dyed three different colors?
What is going on here seems to border on exposure or on "secret-seeking". Why should it matter what method is used? If it fits your show, then BUY IT! If you want to know the method, then BUY IT! I believe it's against the Café rules to fish for secrets and methods.
Things are more like they are today than they've ever been before...
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magicians Inner circle Teacher and Legend 2898 Posts |
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On 2008-10-22 06:37, ClintonMagus wrote: I never fished for the method, I knew the method. The sellers rebuttal is what continued the thread. I PM'd you with detailed comment.
Illusionist, Illusionist consulting, product development, stage consultant, seasoned performer for over 35 years. Specializing in original effects. Highly opinionated, usually correct, and not afraid of jealous critics. I've been a puppet, a pirate, a pawn and a King. Free lance gynecologist.
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