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Who knows about this book "Gambling Collectibles: A Sure Winner" ?

http://www.amazon.com/Gambling-Collectib......8740541X

Any comments, review?
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Not worth the money , read the first sentence of the description , ha


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What exactly does the first sentence of the description say that causes you to declare the book "not worth the money"?
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Posts like yours silver......posts like yours ( Ha , just kidding Smile )

"gambling is as american as hot dog , apple pie , elvis presley , blah blah blah" ( nice cliche JOE )


Invest on classic french and american books and old catalogs instead. ( word )


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Thanks for your elaborated and sharp comment on the book Mr Fill. As you sound a well cultivated book critic, may you suggest me a couple of those french and american books about this gambling collectibles subject?
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Can you read french ?


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H20,

I'm not sure that my answer will be as helpful as the ones that we've been blessed with from Fill-Useless over the past week or so, but here's what I know of Lenny Schneir.

First and foremost, he was a former professional poker player that used to play in the underground clubs in New York. He is retired now and lives in Florida, where I believe he is a very serious collector of leather wallets with cowboy and Western motifs.

At one time, he had one of the finest gambling collections in the entire world and it was auctioned off in a series of two major auctions in the 1990s. Many of Lenny's pieces wound up in serious collections (Steve Forte's included) around the world.

If you listed the top 5 gambling collectors in the hobby, all 5 would undoubtedly have pieces from the Schneir collection. The catalogs from those two auctions are difficult to come by and bring decent prices on the secondary market.

The book Gambilng Collectibles: A Sure Winner, is one of only a few really great looks at the entire spectrum of gambling collectibles. There are good pictorial chapters on the history of poker and books about the game, cheating books and pamphlets, artwork with gambling themes, and hard collectibles like faro boxes, casekeepers and old ivory chips.

If you're interested in old gambling items, it's simply a must have. The amount and kind of information within its covers would save you a bunch of time and effort if you tried to get it through experience and searching alone.

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I cant, but what are the "american books"?
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On 2008-10-19 16:35, FILL--IPINESS wrote:
Can you read french ?


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Well, I can. So I would care for some tips.

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I'd be very interested about french books too. Of course, in the past there were very nice ones to read (just to give one name, Eugène Villiod). Remember Houdin?But for 100 years, I'm not sure you'll be able to name ONE book. Gerard Majax wrote one around 1970, but, well, er, how to say that? Well, it's a little bit ****ty (I'm a very polite guy).

Anyway. If you can provide authors I don't know...
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Looks nice. There is a book called Casino Collectibles or something like that but I am not a collector, I had a copy but gave it to a friend who is, it looked pretty much like that one. I like looking at old cheating devices and new ones but I am not into Collecting.
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Thanks for that information Jason.
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Thanks for your precious help Jason, really appreciated.
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I'm sure the author of the book "Gambling Collectibles: A Sure Winner" was a good collector , has money to buy thousands of faro boxes for $2000 each , is a nice guy and has a good family , but h2o asked about the book and the truth is that his book represents to the gambling history the same as the book "Dirty Poker - Richard Markus" represents to card cheating history , not much , not to say *cough* nothing *cough* :!

I say again: not worth the money , invest on the classics instead.

If you have the classic books and catalogs you'll know about the gambling collectible vintage items , ha

About the french books , while I would like to type all titles here , it would take too much time to write down the title and publication date of about 130 books. But for those really interested I recommend getting the book: "Bibliographie des ouvrages de tricherie aux cartes et dans les casinos" ( translation : "Bibliography of books on Cheating at Cards and in Casinos" ) The book contains the title of about 120 french publications in chronological order devoted to cheating at cards , from 1489 till 1999 , with vast information for the serious historians.

I hope the above information will be useful for those really interested on the french card cheating publications , I know it won't for Jason who called me "useless" without reason.


Now , if you prefer the book "Gambling Collectibles: A Sure Winner" ( a.k.a. Gambling , Hot Dog and Apple Pie ) available at Amazon , instead of the classics , it is up to you. :!


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Making friends and influencing people...

If Mr. England says its a great book, my bet is it that it is a great book. A review who ends every sentence with "ha" looses credence quickly.
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With a name like 'Fill' I was hoping your replies would be a little less 'Empty'.

Do you have any idea who Jason England is?

Maybe the Ellusionist forums might be better suited for you.

Ha.
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Whoever invited "Fill" in here looses 5 points.
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Kcg5 , as I said , it is up to you. If you don't have the classic books and catalogs and want to collect rare vintage gambling items the book "Gambling Collectibles: A Sure Winner" may be worth for you.


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Hansen , with a name 'Hansen' I would expect your replies to be more 'Handsome'

Do you know who the father of the uncle of my grandpa is ?

Maybe the GIJJ--IPINESS forum might be better suited for you.

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Hansen , the above isn't legitimate questions , it is just to show you how pathetic your post sounded to me , ha

Of course I know Jason , he is a nice guy but as far as I know he has no privilege from other members here. I showed my point without disrespect , if you didn't like it I can't help you.

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Silverking , I love you too Smile



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Fill, I understand what you're trying to say about the classics but I think you're quite confusing things here.
The book "Gambling Collectibles: A Sure Winner" seems not to be all about cheating. I never asked if this book is worth exposing cheating devices or methods. Jason's review and Amazon's short comment describe the book more like a little illustrated encyclopedia of gambling items and devices throughout a defined period of time in History. And as Jason pointed out, Lenny Schneir the author is a serious collector and poker player so I think he should quite know what he's talking about in this book. I'm not a gambling items collector but like Tommy I enjoy looking at those old gambling devices and objects either they're crooked or not.

You tell us about those "classics". There's indeed a lot of books about crooks, cheaters, carnivals... in the French and American-English literature. I heard that in France Daniel Rhod is highly knowledgeable about the history of cheating and he has indeed released quite a long list of French books about this very subject.
But tell me, is there any other book in French or English with the EXACT same subject and format as "Gambling Collectibles: A Sure Winner"? I mean do you know of any other "encyclopedia" of old gambling items with photographs and pictures ?

And well, do you have the book yourself?
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And please don't tell me about those old K.C or Hunt catalogs... we all know about them, I want a real "encyclopedia" title Smile
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