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WOW,
I never would have thought that standing there in the Nuts & Bolts Aisle of Ace Hardware 2 years or so ago trying to figure out a way to use my everyday ring to perform "Prohibition" by Charlie Justice would lead to all of this!!!

Let me just say that I'm not claiming to have invented anything new and earth shattering, as Dick Christian stated above, it's not rocket science. I just came up with my take on a type of PK gimmick that I have found can be used with any ring, anytime, anywhere in a second or two. I'm putting together a DVD package with the gimmick, another style of PK gimmick, some extra "stuff" for the gimmicks that makes them more versatile (Thanks again to Scott Guinn), along with some discussion of the use and handling of those gimmicks and some good PK effects that the gimmick can be used with. I'm not trying to step on anyone else's toes or steal their thunder, that's why I originally emailed Cesaral when Andy Amyx brought to my attention the similarity between the two gimmicks, which by the way, apparently is not even Cesarals!!! (My head hurts, does your head hurt??!!)

I fully intend, and ALWAYS have, to dedicate a section of the DVD to describing the history of the gimmick. How I came up with my version, and pay respects and give the proper credit to the other gimmicks and/or effects using similar gimmicks that I am able to research and find out about. Now, I'm sure I will miss one or two of those that are out there in the Magic Universe, so I would like to apologize ahead of time. I've been a fan of Magic since I was 9 or 10, I'm now 47 years old (OUCH!!!). I LOVE Magic, it's history, it's unique qualities as an art form and performance genre, and all of the amazing Magicians both famous & obscure who have come before us. I believe that all the creativity we see in Magic today comes from what has been before. It's been inspired by and/or derived from the creative contributions of those preceding us, who inspire us.

I'm just a guy who loves Magic who came up with my take on solving an issue I had for performing PK effects. I hope everyone who likes PK effects appreciates my small contribution, and finds what the DVD package will have to offer useful. I REALLY do want to thank everyone for their passion and support surrounding my little E-Book I decided to put out a few months ago, it means a lot to me.

PS - Mariano G, please PM me with your contact info so we can talk...
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Hi Mariano

Ceseral certainly likes to claim things as his it seems. Not very ethical now is he? Shame that magicians like him exist in this small magic world of ours.

On a side note, I do think in the long term it is always best to research as much a possible if a new potential effect for the market has been created before. If it has and the new version is different enough and permission is granted from the original inventor, then maybe it can be released with all necessary credits in the instructions. It just saves a lot of hassle in the future don't you think? Smile I am talking generally here and not specifically about this ring gimmick. One guy wanted to release his version of Out of Order but had the decency to contact me first, show me in person so I could decide if yay or nay. What a nice way to do so.

Best wishes.

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For your information:

The original idea for color changing disks is from a Japanese company called Trick Co, LTD, which launched in 1976 a effect done with colour disks. Angelo Carbone adapted the same idea and principle to poker cards. Until I told him about it, he thought he was the inventor. I have a copy of this old trick, and if you are interested I can send to you videos and pictures of it.

What I put into the trick was basically:
1) You can do the effect with 4 borrowed cards
2) You can make the hole and punch the rivet in from of the audience. A special gimmick is used for the secret part of it
3) A new and invisible handling of the cards once the ribbet is put

I added many enhancements to the 70´s original idea, in my opinion.

Regarding the gimmick of "Cesaral Melting Point": Mariano designed the first gimmick and I have a picture of this first one he showed to me. I did some changes to that gimmick because it had some important problems, and designed the way to manufacture it. Due to the success of the trick, I also manufactured a plastic mould for it (I have it with me). Sorry Mariano, I have the files that demonstrate all the work from my side. Anyway, this is not the place to write about this story. As Mariano said may be the courts will decide who is right.



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I never said I invented the principle. I however DID invent the EFFECT of 4 cards riveted together swapping places. Does that mean there can never be a new trick on the market that uses roughing fluid because it is an old principle?

So if you say you added your 'enhancements to the original 70's idea' then where is your improved version of the color changing disks? You didn't do a version of the color changing disks trick. You did a version of MY trick. Do you see?

The trick with 4 riveted cards and the **** principle revolving around a rivet NEVER existed before until I came up with it. Your version is exactly the SAME effect and SAME method - only your handling is different. The EFFECT and METHOD is the same as 'Out of Order'. Yet you chose not contact me first to see if it was ok to release your version.

When I told you two FISMs ago to stop selling it, you didn't. If your version is not seen as a rip off then why oh why did the last FISM agree that it WAS (when I presented them with the evidence) and told you to stop selling it? Were they wrong too??? I had many respected top magicians agreeing with me but I don't want to resort to name dropping. Some were there to back me up at FISM.

Your version is listed with many other knock offs of my trick here: http://magicfakers.blogspot.com/2007/10/out-of-order.html

I am really sorry Hank to interrupt this thread, I don't want to get into a war with Cesar. We have already heard on here that he tried to claim another trick as his which made me respond initially.

With respect Hank,

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I fully agree Hank...even more..., "we are nothing but star dust...and from the dust we arise and to the dust we return”.

I did not tried to hurt you Angelo, and of course this is not the proper place for it. Sorry if I did.

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I believe that all the creativity we see in Magic today comes from what has been before. It's been inspired by and/or derived from the creative contributions of those preceding us, who inspire us.
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Isn't this the same as the Melt gimmick?
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Angelo,
No problem, I can understand your feeling of frustration...

Cesar,
As I've said in past posts, I don't know you or your history. Whatever disputes you may or may not have are between you and the other parties. Respectfully, after speaking with a good deal of people and doing a good deal of thinking, I'm going to go ahead with my project. I know I came up with my version of a PK ring gimmick independently, quite literally in the aisles of ACE Hardware, and I'm not claiming I have created something absolutely new and unique, I'm merely offering my take on a gimmick that can allow a Magician to use any ring, at any time, anywhere as a PK ring.

Huss,
As so eloquently stated by Mr. Christian, "It's not rocket science, no one is re-inventing the wheel here..."

Again,
the support and creative advice from the Café members has been amazing and I thank all of you so much. My DVD will have a section devoted to recognizing the history of PK ring gimmicks and their creators, so anyone who has any info on such, I welcome the research. I want to pay proper homage to the appropriate people to the best of my ability...

Hank
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Lol... thanks again for reminding that it was my idea to use such a gimmick. I created it with a pin and a magnet, yes.So what? Who is the inventor of the automobile? Certainly, it's not Mercedes-Benz, but they do create beautiful cars.
The gimmick I designed worked perfectly, it is the same I used in the first demo video that took the magic world by storm. Period.
So Mr. Alonso, it's true that you took the time to "shape" the gimmick and make it look professional. Many thanks for that.

As stated above by another member, the "gimmick" is not new. So I didn't "invented" nothing new, just the trick Melting Point.

And Mr.Carbone... I remember you at the C****AL booth in FISM 2006 with Derren Brown!! great magician, I admire him. Smile
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Mariano,

Please check your private messages.

I look forward to hearing from you...

Thanks,
Hank
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Hank, I sent you a private message, I kindly ask you to answer my questions. If they are not much of a disturbance, thanks.

Rey Mejia.
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Just ordered the Any Ring PK Gimmick E-book from your site Hank.

Please send me the E-book when you have a moment (including the updated notes).

Looking forward to doing Prohibition without a thick steroid looking version of my real wedding band.

Thanks!
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Yep, me too - just ordered. Are you sending e-books out manually?
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I just received my e-book!

Quick delivery through manual emails.

Thanks Hank!!
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Peter,

You should have received yours as well?

Hank
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Hank, thanks - got it! I have a long flight to Cairo tomorrow morning - look forward to read it then...
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PeterMik,

I'm very curious to hear what you thought of this E-Book...

Thanks,
Hank
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Hello Hank... I ordered the E-Book late last night and I still received the download last night. Your a night owl I guess.

The directions are well done and complete as to the various parts required. The upgrade was good to see. HOWEVER...

The Ace Hardware store in my town doesn't have the retaining clips. So I went on line to the Ace stores and there is nothing on their site as well. I tried googling for the clips but still could not find anything close to the ones you use.

Where else can I look? Is there anywhere on line that sell these clips. Your help would be appriciated. I have the PK rings but find this would be a nice utility item to have in my pocket for the spur of the moment happenings. I don't wear the PK all the time.

Good job and thanks for any help you can give.

Ron
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Ron,

Thank you, I really appreciate you taking the time to post your thoughts on my E-Book. As for the clips, you are correct, I have found that only SOME of the ACE hardware stores carry the screen clips. Since I'm putting together a DVD package which will include the gimmicks, I've been buying the "raw materials" necessary to make them. In trying to purchase those clips, I found that only one of the Ace Hardware stores out of the four I checked carry those particular clips. The part of that I find ironic is that if I had not chose that particular Ace when I was first trying to come up with this gimmick, I would have never found those clips, which are PERFECT for this application. I spoke to the Store Manager at the Ace that carries these and he told me where they get them. The information is as follows:

COMPANY: Servalite
PART #: 27000
PART DESCRIPTION: Turn Button

Here is the Contact Page from their website:

http://www.servalite.com/contactus.htm

I'm sure if you call them, they can tell you a location near you that carries them. I hope this helps you, if not, let me know.

Thanks,
Hank
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Thanks for the response Hank... I'll check it out.

Ron
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I just wanted to take a minute to thank Mariano G for taking the time to give me the history and thought behind the creation of his "Melting Point" gimmick. I will be including his contributions to PK gimmicks in the History Section of the upcoming DVD package.

I would also like to thank Dick Christian for filling me in on The Collector's Workshop contributions with their "Badlands Bob" gimmick. I will try to fill in the history of that one as well.

Lastly, thanks to Scott Guinn who has provided me with a great "extra" to this gimmick which will allow it to be used in a whole new direction. Scott is a very talented performer and creator of Magic, you should check out his website at http://www.scottfguinn.com Thanks Scott for all of your help and support.
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