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Magic_Steve Inner circle Maryland 1476 Posts |
We've all been in the position of someone reaching for their wallet or digging through their purse to tip the magician after a show. Most of us would say they walk away. I would agree most of the time. Then you get the guest that asks, "do you accept tips?"
And then once again, mention how you're well compensated by the management, blah blah blah. What about those times where you finished up, said your good-byes, then they tell you "WAIT! We want to tip you!" Here's what has always made me scratch my head. Sure, you get that awkward pause while they pull out their money, but at the same time, it would seem rude of me to tell them not to, since they've already made up their mind. Most of the time, I'll just ask the other people at the table how their evening was, where they're from, blah blah blah. Basically, just make small talk with them. Sometimes, if all eyes are on me, I'll go into another brief routine whilst they're getting the money out. Who knows, maybe I'm just doing something completely wrong, shouldn't wait around, whatever. Just wanted to know what everyone else does in that situation?? On one hand, I'm not one to turn down money, especially when the guests are being more assertive about it, as in not asking "do you accept tips?" but telling you, "We want to tip you!" I think it would be rude to walk away from that, or say that "I'm paid by the house, thank you for the kind thought though." If someone said that to me when I went to tip them, I'd be kinda ****ed off about it. I'm trying to make a nice gesture, and am instantly shot down. Your thoughts??? Steve |
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Natanel Special user 739 Posts |
I generally demure the first time and accept it the second time. I have no problem with taking tips, just the aggressive solicitation of such.
My first decline is worded " Oh, I'm paid well by the restaurant, and besides, the best tip you could give me is to tell the management how much you enjoyed the magic" or alternately "The best tip you could give me would be to hold on to my card anhd think of me next time you are planning a party." However, if they insist a second time, as they often do, I always politely accept.
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Jaz Inner circle NJ, U.S. 6111 Posts |
Nice post Natanel.
Another: "It's really not necessary, honest." You can then walk away or... If you want the tip and they insist then thank them and let them know how much you appreciate it. |
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davidpaul$ Inner circle Georgetown, South Carolina 3086 Posts |
If people really want to tip they do by shaking my hand with the tip or by placing it into my pocket. Sometimes they just hand me money with a don't take no for answer type attitude. I think sometimes people just want to sound generous and expect you to say "Oh, that's OK, but thanks anyway" or whatever tip declining statement you want to use.
As for the "Hold on we want to tip you" scenario there could be two things going on here. One, you didn't let your guests know you were going to be performing your last effect so by the time you were finished they would have prepared your tip. Second, they wanted it to sound good expecting you to politely decline, because it would be awkward to stand around waiting. I also have had people send their children after I left their table to give me a tip. These are obviously just my opinions. David Paul
Guilt will betray you before technique betrays you!
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BrianMillerMagic Inner circle CT 2050 Posts |
When people insist on tipping me, I simply say, "Thank you very much, I really do appreciate it. I hope you enjoyed it, and have a great rest of your evening!" I say that with complete sincerity, a handshake, and strong eye contact. Sounds weird, but if you're going to accept the tip, you have to show some genuine gratitude.
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davidpaul$ Inner circle Georgetown, South Carolina 3086 Posts |
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On 2008-11-01 18:45, BrianMillerMagic wrote: Nothing weird about that statement. Genuine sincere gratitude should always be given even if no tipping is involved. Just their attention given to you is important. When money is given, Brian is SPOT ON !
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ldl1017 Elite user 476 Posts |
I graciously accept the tip and before leaving I put the bill on the table and check it with one of those currency security pens that you get at Staples. You can never be to cautious.
“I am, as I've said, merely competent. But in an age of incompetence, that makes me extraordinary.”
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Dustin Baker Inner circle California 1006 Posts |
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On 2008-11-01 19:45, ldl1017 wrote: I hope and pray that that's a joke.
Think inside the box. . . it's less crowded.
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Pauldela Special user U.K 882 Posts |
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On 2008-11-01 19:45, ldl1017 wrote: Haha. |
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SoCalPro Inner circle Southern California 1634 Posts |
Bingo Natanel.
Also..... I use what Jaz said....."It's really not necessary, honest." Most of the time they will come back with something like "we know it's not necessary but we WANT too". At that point it'd be rude to refuse. |
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Magic_Steve Inner circle Maryland 1476 Posts |
Thanks guys...
I'm always thankful and gracious when I receive a tip...and I mention if they wish to see more magic when they're finished eating, to just ask for the magician and I'd be more than happy to come back for a bit. I guess I asked the wrong question...does that happen to anyone else? Where they tell you to wait, then you have that awkward moment of them getting the money, and you're kinda just standing there. What do you do during that time?? |
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ldl1017 Elite user 476 Posts |
Dustin,
If that's not a joke, then the manually operated credit card machine definitely is. I accept all forms of payment. I add 6% for Amex though.
“I am, as I've said, merely competent. But in an age of incompetence, that makes me extraordinary.”
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Steve, one way to handle it is to simply almost brush it off as if there is not only no need but no hurry. You will be around all night after all, no need to rush him right there.
It can be done very graciously and it does get by that awkward part about waiting for him to go through his wallet. No need to stand and wait for a tip like a pizza boy LOL. I am not saying turn it down, but more be thankful, tactful, and always moving LOL.
Danny Doyle
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SoCalPro Inner circle Southern California 1634 Posts |
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On 2008-11-01 21:30, Magic_Steve wrote: Now, a bad thing to say would be something like....(in your best "Office Space" boss voice) "Ooooooh...yeah...a five..Yeaaaah. Do you have anything.....larger???" |
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abc Inner circle South African in Taiwan 1081 Posts |
Chat about the restaurant, the food or their evening. My opinion is that there is no need to do another effect if you have just done a closer. Just be friendly and chat.
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BrianMillerMagic Inner circle CT 2050 Posts |
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On 2008-11-02 08:39, abc wrote: Precisely; casual conversation with anyone else at the table will do the trick perfectly. If you're a funny guy, make the table laugh while the person is getting out a tip. That's always encouraging |
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Bad to the Balloon Inner circle Clearwater Florida 2116 Posts |
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On 2008-11-01 21:39, ldl1017 wrote: Had an unusual one ..... Fast food restaurant, didn't even perform for them. They were young, unassuming, and a demographic not know for tipping and definitely not in the over tipping category. They dropped a $50 bill on me. after they left I borrowed the counterfeit marker and checked the bill ... yeah I felt bad for doing it, but the bill was good. Curious night!!
Mark Byrne
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patrick flanagan Inner circle lisle, illinois 1045 Posts |
Steve,
One way to be a bit proactive is to introduce your last effect of your set. That way it gives the people a few minutes to prepare for the tip if they desire. I'll say something like (with tongue in cheek), "Let me do one last thing for you, then I have to go bother some other nice people". Works for me. patrick |
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Christopher Lyle Inner circle Dallas, Texas 5698 Posts |
It also doesn't hurt to CLOSE with a money trick...that way the money is already out in play. I will usually close with by borrowing a $10 from someone as I feel someone will more easily relinquish ownership of a $10 over a $20. Seems to work pretty well for me anyhow...
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
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On 2008-11-03 13:07, lylemagic wrote: Have you ever thought about borrowing a twenty, tearing it in half and restoring it as 2 tens? LOL! Awkward waits are better endured if they aren't noticed by other tables. Wrong impressions are hard to undo. I'd rather make my exit before they get to that point. Should someone catch you later on their way out, that can be a golden moment, if seen by the current group you're working for. Those exiting tippers usually do so with a bit of nice feedback attached.
~michael baker
The Magic Company |
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