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The Great Danton Elite user Westfield, North Carolina, USA 449 Posts |
Hey Guys,
I have a question on the history of an escape; hopefully, one of you will know the answer. Has anyone ever escaped from a metal trash can that has had the lid chained onto it by having one chain run around the can, through the handles, and two chains crossing through the handle on top and locked onto the chain going around? I have a method of escape I'd like to try, but I wondered if anyone else had done this. I thought it might be my special escape. "Ladies and gentlemen, the trashy-ist escape ever!"
"You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden; nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house."
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Moxahalla Special user Los Angeles 751 Posts |
I have a method of escape I'd like to try, but I wondered if anyone else had done this. I thought it might be my special escape.
______________________________________________________ Danton: I don't recall this "trash can" escape being done previously, at least not on a national media level or on TV. I can only think of Criss Angel, who did an illusionary 'escape' from a trash can...and reappeared moments later at a nearby location. In the 1970s, American female comedy magician Judy Carter did more of a spoof-gag from a trash can. ....In short, my guess is that your planned escape from a chained metal trash can would be somewhat unique & original. Keep us posted! |
Cliffg37 Inner circle Long Beach, CA 2491 Posts |
I really think I have seen someone do this, but I do not remember who or where. Like Moxahalla said, I think it was done more as an illusion and less like an escape.
So, go for it. Let us know how it comes out.
Magic is like Science,
Both are fun if you do it right! |
The Great Danton Elite user Westfield, North Carolina, USA 449 Posts |
Hey, thanks, guys.
I just came up with it one night because we were talking about moving a lot of dirt and that metal trash cans would be best. It was kind of a light bulb moment, like "Hey, I could escape from one...." It could be presented as the Urban Torture Cell. ? I'll let you all know how my method comes out, if and when I get it ready. I might try to get some pictures up, as well. Thanks for your help! Danton
"You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden; nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house."
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jay leslie V.I.P. Southern California 9498 Posts |
It's been performed with a 55 gallon drum, in the past and I'm sure in the future.
Jay Leslie
www.TheHouseOfEnchantment.com |
dave_matkin Inner circle 4522 Posts |
WHEELIE BIN IN THE UK!!!!!! By David Straightjacket idea, I think, with discussion from Kondini - and STOLEN (erm, I mean, discussed it with them, and then used BY ME!). Jay has a Video of it - but he can't transfer it OR be bothered to return it to the uk.
Wheelie bins are great. I call it my "Dustbin of Doom" or "Wheelie Bin of Woe!" depending on what mood I am in. Dave |
The Great Danton Elite user Westfield, North Carolina, USA 449 Posts |
Darn it, Dave! you just had to rain on my parade, didn't you? Haha...
I still think my "Urban Torture Cell" will be a hit! A 55 gallon drum would be huge... I was thinking a 20-25 gallon garbage bin...
"You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden; nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house."
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Ms. Morgan Veteran user The Garden State 399 Posts |
I use a 55gal drum (water filled) and it's not that huge. Although, I do have room to float to the top and bump my head on the lid.
25gal sounds small...how tall are you? If you don't mind me asking. Ms.M
World Magic Award's "Escape Artist of the Year"
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jay leslie V.I.P. Southern California 9498 Posts |
Danton,
Most of the good people here have been buried, tied, locked, bundled, strapped, hung, buried, thrown in water, etc... many times in many years. Most everything you can look at that might contain a body has already been explored. The real art to escape is not what you escape from, but the way you present it. There is plenty of room for performers who develop a unique presentation. There is plenty of room for you if you are a good entertainer. Eventually, you will discover or create the right style that works for you. Sometimes it involves the perception of danger, and sometimes it's more like a puzzle. The best approach for an up and coming performer like yourself would be to buy books and DVDs and learn what's already being preformed, then you can use elements of existing escapes to create your own style. Become an apprentice to someone who is already active. (Apprentice means to take the back seat, and you'll be amazed what you'll learn. Just help in the manner you are asked to; no more, no less. This is different than pushing illusions around the stage. Escapes require a precise set of elements to make them work.) When Letterman first came on the air, I called his office every day for two weeks and suggested an escape. Each one was more ridicules than the day before. I thought I might interest them that way. One day I suggested that I escape from a pastrami sandwich, the next I suggested an escape from a tuba, the next day I suggested I escape from a 56 Buick.... It didn't matter what or how the escape was performed as long as it sounded interesting. This little tangent just shows you how to waste two weeks without getting anywhere, BUT I just want to open up the conversation (Danton) to you escaping from anything that can confine you... It's the ability to escape that takes time to learn. If you have this much enthusiasm in ten years, you'll go far. - - - -- - - And to those (Dave) who wonder about the WEAR movie... My super special computers logic board burned up. As soon as I scrape up another $1,100ºº (Dave) I can get back to work on it. Most of the footage (Dave) is already loaded. O.K. ... thank you for understanding.... and if you are not understanding, perhaps you are overstanding or possibly side stepping or maybe outstanding in your field. Just remember Dave stands behind his work..... about one meter! I said I was an Escape Artist, not a comedian.
Jay Leslie
www.TheHouseOfEnchantment.com |
Cliffg37 Inner circle Long Beach, CA 2491 Posts |
I'm afraid, Dave...
Daisy, Daiiiisy.... (great movie, great quote) and never forget where they got that tape of the computer singing Daisy.
Magic is like Science,
Both are fun if you do it right! |
The Great Danton Elite user Westfield, North Carolina, USA 449 Posts |
Thanks Jay,
I figured it'd been done before, probably a lot of times, but had never seen it, so I had to wonder. I do not intend to use any water or such. I'm 6' 1 1/4", but I've put myself into a 3' X 2' X 2' cardboard box before. I'm thinking about a 32 gallon now, as it's only 3$ more. The problem right now with an apprenticeship for me is, the best I can tell, there isn't anyone close who is doing such things. There are two, maybe three performing magicians in the area. I'll look into it farther just to make sure the opportunity is not available for me to take. On the subject of books, what do you suggest?
"You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden; nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house."
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jay leslie V.I.P. Southern California 9498 Posts |
Novak, Encyclopedia of Escapes, 33 Rope Ties, Everyone else can jump in (That's not a book but a great name for an escape) "Everyone else can jump in".... I like it. You're standing on a floor with 30 other people. A trap door opens, the wall starts moving, everyone else is forced to jump in the trap to an early demise, but you deftly pick the lock on the door and escape. It's a revolving door so only one person at a time can escape. It's a pay for view hit.
And what's with the 1/4? In that case, I'm 6 foot and 0.05 inches tall. For lunch I ate 75/78ths of my sandwich, and while Dave is the head teacher in charge, Cliff will tell you that you are only 73.25 inches tall in the morning but shrink half an inch (excuse me, .5) during the day, approximately. However, Stan probably has the caliper that's long enough for an accurate measurement. Note to self: too much coffee.
Jay Leslie
www.TheHouseOfEnchantment.com |
Harley Newman Inner circle 5117 Posts |
Dave's in charge of whose head?
Note to self...not enough coffee. The important thing is learning to think outside the box.
“You can’t depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus” -Mark Twain
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The Great Danton Elite user Westfield, North Carolina, USA 449 Posts |
Well, that's what I was told last time I was measured. They said, "You are 6 feet 1 and 1 quarter inches tall." I try to be a little taller as hard as I can.
I'll put those books on my "need to get list." Fortunately, it's rather small at the moment, so I might actually be able to get these in a shorter amount of time. Hahaha... I think these days, one should think "inside" the box because everyone else is to busy thinking outside of it.
"You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden; nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house."
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Harley Newman Inner circle 5117 Posts |
Everything moves. It's a transition.
“You can’t depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus” -Mark Twain
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Kondini Inner circle 3609 Posts |
When the bins first came out, I did an escape from them for National No Smoking Day which won me a UK Government Award.
The idea was passed onto Mr. Royal, who nearly froze to death doing it (but got good press at the same time). See prev threads regarding this. I was booked to do a water filled bin escape at the Hilton in London, but due to prior contracts had to pass on. I think Ros and David were offered via me...the outcome!!! Not sure. Have done many escapes over the years from these bins...covered, full of water, cig ends and ice, etc. I make no claim as to being the first, but not heard of anyone else doing it at that time. I think David came up with the idea of putting a perspex section in the front of the bin to make it a visible struggle...but again, memory eludes the full details and dates. To me, it was a light weight, cheap (you can find them and borrow if you wish anyplace) Escape which could be wheeled on and off, examined to their hearts content and with its own built-in danger angle. What else could a performer wish for?!?!?! Ken. |
dave_matkin Inner circle 4522 Posts |
Sorry, KEN! I credited David rather than you - now that I think about it, it was ..... erm, well, both of you seem to blame each other for the window idea! I should have known you had escaped out of a wheelie bin before David was even a twinkle in his daddy's eye ........
Government award? What, like a pension? |
jay leslie V.I.P. Southern California 9498 Posts |
Quote "I think David came up with the idea of putting a perspex section in the front of the bin to make it a visible struggle...but again, memory eludes the full details and dates" End quote.
- - - - - I'm going to invent an escape from a window and do away with the can. That way, I can't drown by accident.
Jay Leslie
www.TheHouseOfEnchantment.com |
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