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Charles Adams Regular user Silver Spring, MD 158 Posts |
Now that winter is setting in and my middle aged skin is responding to the decreased humidity levels, I begin my annual search for comprehensive relief. I recently bought a bottle of Golden Touch lotion. While it does provide some short term benefit I notice that SD-40 alcohol is the primary ingredient. I have heard that alcohol is ultimately drying to the skin. If this is true I find it surprising that Chamberlain's markets Golden Touch as a long term skin moisturizing product. Does anyone have any knowledge and/or insight into the alcohol / drying to skin issue?
Here is some more information on SD-40, the main ingredient in Golden Touch Lotion: http://www.carefair.com/skincare/Why_Alc......638.html As a result, harsh alcohols cause the skin to become extremely dry. Examples of the most common forms of harsh alcohols include rubbing alcohol and SD-alcohol 40. Because of its tendency to evaporate quickly, when contained in a skincare product, this causes the skin to become dry and irritated. http://futurederm.wordpress.com/2007/10/......alcohol/ The low molecular weight alcohols most commonly found in skincare products are (the first three are the same, under different names): ethanol, ethyl alcohol, denatured alcohol, methanol, benzyl alcohol, isopropyl alcohol, and SD alcohol. (Denatured or “SD” means that the alcohols are processed so that they cannot be ingested.) The five different agents are used as a solvent, antiseptic, or degreasing agent in skin care formulations. When found high on the ingredients list, they can be drying and irritating. However, according to Kunin, if the ingredient is contained lower in the ingredients list, they may simply be acting as a degreasing agent, making for a better texture of the skin care formulation. I'm thinking Golden Touch may provide short term tackiness but ultimately exacerbate the underlying problem of dry skin. And... http://www.cosmeticscop.com/ingredient_d......?lid=492 alcohol. Group of organic compounds that have a vast range of forms and uses in cosmetics. In benign form they are glycols used as humectants that help deliver ingredients into skin. When fats and oils (see fatty acid) are chemically reduced, they become a group of less-dense alcohols called fatty alcohols that can have emollient properties or can become detergent cleansing agents. When alcohols have low molecular weights they can be drying and irritating. The alcohols to be concerned about in skin-care products are ethanol, denatured alcohol, ethyl alcohol, methanol, benzyl alcohol, isopropyl alcohol, and sd alcohol, which not only can be extremely drying and irritating to skin, but also can generate free-radical damage (Sources: “Skin Care—From the Inside Out and Outside In, ”Tufts Daily, April 1, 2002; eMedicine Journal, May 8, 2002, volume 3, number 5, http://www.emedicine.com; Cutis, February 2001, pages 25–27; Contact Dermatitis, January 1996, pages 12–16; and http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh27-4/277-284.htm). In a product where these ingredients are at the top of the ingredient list, they will be problematic for all skin types; when they are at the bottom of an ingredient list, there most likely is not enough present to be a problem for skin. |
Scott M Special user Apex, NC 524 Posts |
Being a hair stylist, I believe some alcohol carry moisturizing ingredients into the hair and skin. Some are moisturizing and some alcolol is used to help dry the main ingredient on or in hair/skin faster than if alcolol was not used, so it is used as a 'drying' agent.
If there is a stronger ratio of alcohol...than no matter how much of anything is used, it can dry out hair and skin. Usually the first 5 ingredients are what is prevelant. Someone got me a lotion for Christmas and can not remember what it was, but it felt clean on my hands and was not slick, with very little smell. Used that up quick. Hope this contributes to your understanding... -Scott M |
Charles Adams Regular user Silver Spring, MD 158 Posts |
As I am learning there are "fatty alcohols" which are okay for use in skincare. Common fatty alcohols that are named as ingredients in skincare items that are alcohol free include: cetearyl alcohol, lanolin alcohol, cetyl alcohol, and stearyl alcohol.
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gaddy Inner circle Agent of Chaos 3526 Posts |
I find that dimethicone based hand creams work great.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
I would suggest that you try Chamberlain's before you try to reverse engineer it. The ingredients that make it work are glycerin and sorbitol. The glycerin will ameliorate most irritation you get with the alcohol. The alcohol acts as a drying agent for the glycerin.
I'm allergic to a number of ingredients found in common kinds of makeup. Chamberlain's has never irritated my hands at all. You might try Cornhusker's, though.
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mysto59 Loyal user Bethalto, Illinois 264 Posts |
Cornhusker's is great. My Grandmother told me about it years ago and its what I still use.
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Tom G Inner circle 2895 Posts |
A vote for Bill on Chamberlain's lotion. Haven't found anything better...
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Some people find that Sort-Kwik works very well. It was a favorite of Mike Skinner. Recently someone has marketed it as Mike Skinner hand creme, but it's still the same old Sort-kwik.
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MarkTirone Inner circle palming not 1 coin, but 1139 Posts |
This sounds totally crazy, And the mixture I use on my day to day basis in my life (going to school, writing, practicing, running) this works wonders for me. All I do is take some johnson's baby lotion and the purell hand sanitizer and mix a drop of each into my hands and they stay smooth and moisturized for 7+ hours. The lotion is to moisturize the hand and the sanitizer removes the ickiness that the lotion leaves and pretty much eliminates any odors being givenn off by the lotion.
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Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5952 Posts |
I use Gold Bond Softening Lotion. It works great for using several times a day. Just before performances, I use Corn Huskers, because it gives me quite a grip.
I never cared for Sort-Kwik, because it gets a rancid smell to it, if it isn't used up in a couple of weeks. I never had that problem with any other lotion. Tom Gagnon let me try some Golden Touch. That stuff is great! It gives you a really good grip. It's too bad that it's hard to find in stores. |
MarkTirone Inner circle palming not 1 coin, but 1139 Posts |
Gary Norsigian gives a good tip in his DVD "Tricks that will get you paid". The cream he uses is called "okives" and it is apparently a working hand cream. He swears by it so I guess it is good. Anybody try this yet?
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
I can't find anything by that name.
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gaddy Inner circle Agent of Chaos 3526 Posts |
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On 2008-11-21 16:56, gaddy wrote: Actually I probably wouldn't recommend these to everyone as they are a bit "greasier" feeling than most people would probably like. I'm a bartender so my hands are immersed in sudsy for long stretches at a time. For me, this stuff works wonders.
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TheAmazingSteveo Inner circle 1581 Posts |
Chamberlain's Golden Touch Lotion is the best of the best.
You can find a store in your area from their main site: http://www.chamberlainlotion.com/ - Steve |
Watchmaker Veteran user 369 Posts |
Whoa dude, that stuff looks a little. . . you know? I might give it a try just because it's being so highly recommended. I have to tell you though, I can't imagine anything working better than Udder Cream. It has always worked great for me and it doesn't have any greasiness at all.
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Father Photius Grammar Host El Paso, TX (Formerly Amarillo) 17161 Posts |
I find that just a little plain old glycerin from the drug store with just a touch of water works fine. Basically Corn Huskers is this with a few additives. But if you use the glycerin with a bit of water, you are guaranteed no alcohol.
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