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jiayi Veteran user Canada 313 Posts |
You know who they are, high school kids who know a trick or two, people who are jealous of you getting attentions and trying to mess up with you. It is exciting to deal with the hecklers, all of the challenges get you pumped. I know it is not good to mess up with the pigs because it gets you dirty too. but if you must, what would you do for the hecklers to shut them down?
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
I know that this doesn't answer your question, but I'd move to another table / group. I'd rather entertain people who want to be entertained.
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jiayi Veteran user Canada 313 Posts |
I totally agree. It will make you look bad in front of other people too. You will lose either way. Just a hypothetical question.
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montymagi Special user Slidell La 752 Posts |
I agree with everyone else. It would not matter what you did or how well you did it they would still give you grief. A gracious exit will leave them looking worse than any trick you could pull off.
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
On a purely mercinary level, note that people who want to be entertained are, on average, better tippers than are hecklers.
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Christopher Lyle Inner circle Dallas, Texas 5698 Posts |
Funny how this thread was posted today when I had this very thing happen to me today. I walked up to a table full of young teens...I would guess between 12-15 years old...I began my cups routine and no sooner did I begin, they were all grabbing at the cups, trying to rape my pockets, etc. I got them off me, and told them when they learned to act respectfully, I would return.
An hour later, one of their parents approached me and said they would behave if I returned. I did...they didn't, so I left not even finishing the effect. It's a lose lose battle man...declare defeat and move on to greener pastures. It ain't worth it.
In Mystery,
Christopher Lyle Magician, Comic, Daredevil, and Balloon Twisting Genius For a Good Time...CLICK HERE! |
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Bad to the Balloon Inner circle Clearwater Florida 2116 Posts |
"I know how you did that"
So? ... I am the one getting paid! Verbally I can joust with anyone and come up smelling like roses. Where I draw the line, being nasty or dirty or touching me. I'll either walk away or if I think they won't calm down I'll hand it myself. Other day had a 7 yo brat in the house. Made him a balloon he tore it up ... "I want another one!!" NO! He reached fro my stuff I deflected him. Second attempt I caught his hand and handed him to his dad. Third attempt snapped a balloon at his hand ... accidentally ; ) When I was in another part of the restaurant he ran up and snatched a balloon I picked him up by the arms and handed him to his dad which took him outside. BTW the parents never defended the kids actions and thought my actions were funny. I was stern yet charming and I know it isn't going to read well here, but it is the truth.
Mark Byrne
AKA Mark the Balloon Guy As seen on the TODAY SHOW www.balloonguy.net Creator of Bad to the Balloon DVD series Go to my store: http://tinyurl.com/Bad2theBalloon |
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R Don Regular user West Coast 197 Posts |
I once used one of those squirt ketchup string things on a guy that was bothering me at a house party. It worked.
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magicianroger Loyal user 287 Posts |
I do a trick where george washinton pee's on him then they all laugh at him
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Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts |
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On 2008-11-22 22:04, S2000magician wrote: Exactly!
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been" ..........John Greenleaf Whittier |
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Glen Regular user 121 Posts |
I just did two great weeks at a local theater with no hitches, then last night at my brothers house for Thanksgiving I was asked to do some magic after dinner. And since I enjoy making people smile and always have my show with me I gladly said okay.
I started out doing Out with Four with the Okito Box and my brothers mother n law immediately wanted to see both hands, then it was let me see the bottom of the box. This continued through the whole routine until the end when she says,,"Yea...right" Well I move on to Winged Silver and here we go again. "I want to see whats in your other hand", bla bla bla. Half way through I stopped and said, " Can't fool you" and I put the coins away. Move on to the next trick and the next trick, and each time after she started I just stopped mid way and put the trick up. She even looked under the table several times and said I had stuff in my lap. Finally I just put everything away and said " No use in going on, she knows how everything is done". Of course the rest of the family was dissapointed and and we me to do more but I had just had enough and politely declined. Now for the worst part...yea it can get worse. She picks up my bag and starts to look in it and when I tried to get it a tug of war begins and I finally just said "Take it" and she just starts taking stuff out. So I finally got it away from her and the show was over. Now you all know what I wanted to do, but it ain't legal, so how do you handle that without causing hard feelings in the family. I hope they all let her have it after I went home. I've handled hecklers out in the world before but this was rediculous. thanks, Glen |
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Jethro Magic Regular user 148 Posts |
Finish your set as short as possible and move to the next table.don't waste your time on people who is not attentive/hecklers.the more you give them attention,the more they will rip you off.that's why there hecklers,they lack attention.
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Adam1975 Special user UK 900 Posts |
I agree with the advice above...walk away...however,if you want to go down another road,perform Roger Curzons Flim Flam,a packet trick that lulls then into a false sense of security,what happens is you show four random cards,then explain you will change them into the four Aces "by magic" which indeed you do...however the gullible old spekky will point out that the packet is "a bit thick" and they can see the "extra cards" (which they can-by design!)
However when you reluctantly show them these cards you have changed them into another totally different four of a kind,ie queens. I have performed this for the smart arses many times,and with a tiny bit of acting,(crikey!)they really really think they have got you,and when you show em that you havent,it brings the house down believe me........... Not for every audience,and I still agree with the general "walk away" advice. However,sometimes you just wanna nail the loudmouth,and this really shuts em up every single time.Never fails!
Ive upped my standards.Now,up yours!
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Bad to the Balloon Inner circle Clearwater Florida 2116 Posts |
I won't perform for family anymore.... in my family setting. They may come to one of my shows, but family is too familiar with you. They think they can do things and step over boundaries normal people won't do.
My mother in-law will ask me to perform and then won't shut up during the show. My father asked me to perform at my little brother's birthday (23 years difference). Middle of the show he got up and went to play on the swings. Family are more evil than hecklers ..... because they pretend to love you.
Mark Byrne
AKA Mark the Balloon Guy As seen on the TODAY SHOW www.balloonguy.net Creator of Bad to the Balloon DVD series Go to my store: http://tinyurl.com/Bad2theBalloon |
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Jon Blakeney Special user Australia 657 Posts |
I have stoppted many a heckler with the ambitious card ,I just let them place the card into the middle them selves it stops them in their tracks.
'What the eye's see the heart must believe"
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Christopher Lyle Inner circle Dallas, Texas 5698 Posts |
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Now you all know what I wanted to do, but it ain't legal, so how do you handle that without causing hard feelings in the family. Easy! Never put yourself in that situation to begin with! We've had this conversation on here before in many different threads. You're NOT a trained monkey who should be expected to jump thru hoops. Magic is your job. If you were a Dentist, would you be expected to give everyone a cleaning after dinner? No! Of course not! Doesn't matter if you're at a family function or at a dinner party someplace. If you're NOT BEING PAID TO BE THE ENTERTAINMENT, then politely decline. What I do when asked in that same situation, is give people my business card, tell them that I perform at (insert restaurant names here) on (insert days of the week and times here) and invite them to come out to my restaurant and watch me work. That get's people in the door and gets me off the hook from performing for free.
In Mystery,
Christopher Lyle Magician, Comic, Daredevil, and Balloon Twisting Genius For a Good Time...CLICK HERE! |
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Natanel Special user 739 Posts |
^ Lyle nailed it.
Took me a long time to discover this on my own, I would strongly encourage people to heed his advice.
People who work for Theory 11: Do you want a young guy without a stupid gelled haircut or eurotrash jeans for your videos? PM me.
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montymagi Special user Slidell La 752 Posts |
Wow Glen that sucks! It is amazing that anyone would act like that. And going thru your bag, that's so over the top. It would be like "sure just let me go thru your purse". You are so sharp you deserve your money back, oh wait, this is a free show so one of us needs to stop what they are doing hmmm which one do you think it should be?
When asked to "do a trick" for a group of friends or the family of friends I say ok I will do one trick. After that one, if I get a good vibe I might do a little more. If they are acting like brats (adult or children) I finish the one promised trick and I am done. I'm a softy and I don't like to outright refuse. But I can see why you guys have that rule. |
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SoCalPro Inner circle Southern California 1634 Posts |
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give people my business card, tell them that I perform at (insert restaurant names here) on (insert days of the week and times here) and invite them to come out to my restaurant and watch me work. I believe that Joel Bauer says the to do the same. Tell them to come see you perform. You'll be able to give them a much better show as well (because you'll have your props with you). |
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Christopher Lyle Inner circle Dallas, Texas 5698 Posts |
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I believe that Joel Bauer says the to do the same. Tell them to come see you perform. You'll be able to give them a much better show as well (because you'll have your props with you). Technically...I don't need "props" to perform awesome magic. I have enough stuff impromptu with everyday objects (as we ALL should) to be able to perform miracles on the spot if need be...I just choose not to!
In Mystery,
Christopher Lyle Magician, Comic, Daredevil, and Balloon Twisting Genius For a Good Time...CLICK HERE! |
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