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mrmuji
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Does anyone know where I could find this effect with a safety pin please?

Effect: Introduce a safety pin and 3 business card to the spectator and EXAMINED. The magician put a small dot on card A, and asked spectator to sign card B and C. The magician use open the pin and stab thru the dot on card A to make a hole and close the pin to lock the card in.

Next, the magician take card B and simply slide the card over the pin on card A, the dot/hole on card A is restored and now the pin is transfered to card B.

The magician then take card C and simply transfer the pin from B with a simple and quick slide motion. The magician can still move the pin up and down on card C, assuming the hole is moveable. Finally he settle at one spot on card C and the pin stays there!

The magician then have to rip the card or open the pin to remove the card to show that the pin is really stabbed thru card C.


IS THIS FROM JERRY ANDRUS BOOK? Or is it an individual effect?

Please PM me if you know where I can find it, thanks every so much!

Bob
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Bob
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You need one gimmicked and two normal safety pins to pull off the effect.

How?

Check out the above video performance by clicking -----> HERE. Smile Smile

Enjoy!

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I think the effect you're looking for is a David Harkey effect, not from his book or video, but it was sold as a stand-alone effect. May have one lying on my desk unopened, matter of fact.

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The name is "the point of no return". as stated, a david harkey effect.
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I own the Linking Safety Pin and I believe it uses the same gimmick pin. However, would still be interested to see the handling.

Steve and Adrian, May I ask how practical is it?

Thanks
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Bob
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On 2008-11-23 18:59, mrmuji wrote:
I own the Linking Safety Pin and I believe it uses the same gimmick pin.


Yes.

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Bob,
You saw Jiang Fey's show on Saturday eh?
I believe the effect is actually called "heavy metal" You won't find it anywhere.
Harkey stopped making it a while back.
James
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It does not use the same gimmicks.
Still with the Chinese circus Smile
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Yes James, The Variety Show on 22nd. It was well cool when I saw that happended.

I believe you watched it as well huh? In fact I realised Liu uses some cool market effect for the start as an appetite and finish with a kicker.

I always have the linking pin for performing walk around but that didn't get too big reactions. Until watching it, then I know THIS IS WHAT I want.

Seems if it's not the same gimmick then it might be a magnetic one and that's all I can think of. However, if it is called The Point Of No Return, then it is still available I think. BUT if it's called Heavy Metal as you stated, then is it 100% no way I could get it?

Thanks
Bob

Posted: Nov 24, 2008 11:10am
But James, from what I know, Heavy Metal by David HArkey is a coin thru table effect.

I m getting confused now!
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Bob
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Heavy Metal is a coin effect utilizing a "special coin". Point of No Return in the safety pin effect featured in the video on the link.

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I was sure it was heavy metal. The ad is in the old Genii mags. I'll have to go and look.
sorry for the confusion if I am wrong.
James
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Bob,
Are you not tired of Taiwan TV magicians and their lousy presentations?
Did Liu really need to hold up the marker and say "marker" to the audience?
This whole crop of guys just saying what their actions are while the do the trick is beyond stupid. Oh well, What can we say?
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David Harkey had a routine in the Linking Ring several years ago called Business Liquidation. It is very similar to this but the handling is different. Harkey also marketed this effect. I think by the same name but could be wrong.
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James,

I checked on Hanklee's website and would confirmed that Heavy Metal is indeed a coin effect. Infact it's a flipper coin.

Hm...regarding the TV show. I gotta say sometimes Liu introduce something that I haven't seen before as I wasn't hold up to know the majority stuffs that is underground or limited produced. I remember he did a puzzle trick before and that's the Merlin's Puzzle and that was pretty interesting to me too. Like he said he wasn't in a competition so it's not about creative, and I noticed things he uses such as Kevin James's card in balloon, prohibition, acrobatic knot, Jepordy, intercessors, pretty much plenty of market stuffs. I won't say I like it a lot but is still funny to watch the silly teasing.

However his presentation, I would say maybe that's his style and I presume performing infront of the TV is different, dunno. Just agree with you, I probably wouldn't emphasize that way.

The audience, Jiang Fei, Wong Bin Yeun and other guests. They always see the candidates do card manipulation and still amazyed, which I m frustracted about...that's how they should react to keep the broadcasting rating high Smile


Do you watch it every week too?

Bob
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Hi Bob,
I always appear on Lee Jing's show "Diamond night club" I am "Jobe Ke Ke"
I have been on 3 times and they called me for an appearance in December.

Jiang Fey's producers called me but I have a contract with Lee Jing's show for three months at a time and they will pick up another three months.

Personally, I always do themed routines that have a reason. Maybe you have seen my sets, if not, PM me your address and I'll send you a DVD.

I'm not saying I'm better than those guys, I just don't like demonstration style magic where they pick up every object and state what it is, then ask the helper to examine it.

Just my nitpick,
James
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Hey James,

I didn't watch the Diamond Night Club because I didn't realised they have included any magic entertainment bits. As you know Jiang Fey's show is a mixture of variety and magic hence draw my attention to watch. However I won't say I m addicted nor be the best show, I just watch it casually.

From my memory if I am right, there is someone do a 2-3 minutes rope routine in the Diamond Night Club before. If that's you then you might be right, I have flashly sen your appearance in a youtube clip. If I know they have a magicain at that chapter, then I will watch it. From now on, if you are gonna be there then I m DEFINATELY gonna watch it!

May I say thank you for your kindness to share your set with me? I will PM you my address later. Becasue I really like to watch others to perform, rathan than only watching DVDs. The way you plan and construct your routine is what I m aiming for too coz I hate doing individual effect, put it in away and bring out something else. Do you think so?

As I m chinese origin, performing with english presentation is how I learn my magic. However performing the same thing in chinese presentation is SO TOUGH! From my experience, performing misdirection in chinese, I just hit a 60% failure rate...Haha..
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Bob
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On 2008-11-25 18:28, Xiqual wrote:

I'm not saying I'm better than those guys, I just don't like demonstration style magic where they pick up every object and state what it is, then ask the helper to examine it.



What's wrong with doing that?
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On 2008-11-25 18:28, Xiqual wrote:

I'm not saying I'm better than those guys, I just don't like demonstration style magic where they pick up every object and state what it is, then ask the helper to examine it.



What's wrong with doing that?


He doesn't like to emphasise something that is already OBVIOUS. I think it depends on who you perform to as some people are skeptical.

Bob
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When you pick up a pen and say "Pen" I think you are insulting your spectators intelligence. It also leads people down the path that there might be fake pens.

Sure, specs probably have an idea that there are fake gimmicky pens but let's not draw a frame around it for them.

Think about a regular situation. If you had to sign for a package and the mailman said "Here, sign you name, WITH THIS PEN." Wouldn't you start thinking the pen was special? Normally, you just pick up a pen and use it, or hand it to someone.

About examinaning props. I NEVER let people examine things. Slows down the show and just breaks the dramatic rythm. It's all about attitude.

Again, just my opinion.
James


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On 2008-11-25 18:28, Xiqual wrote:

I'm not saying I'm better than those guys, I just don't like demonstration style magic where they pick up every object and state what it is, then ask the helper to examine it.



What's wrong with doing that?
Still with the Chinese circus Smile
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^ I see what you mean.

I guess the effect could be better if the performer only hands out his props for examination if the audience request for it themselves. It seems more impromptu and real that way. Instead of offering every single thing for examination and making non-suspicious looking items look suspicious.
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On 2008-11-26 00:44, chidzuyo wrote:
^ I see what you mean.

I guess the effect could be better if the performer only hands out his props for examination if the audience request for it themselves. It seems more impromptu and real that way. Instead of offering every single thing for examination and making non-suspicious looking items look suspicious.


Yes, that is how it should be. I agree!!! Smile

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On 2008-11-26 00:44, chidzuyo wrote:
^ I see what you mean.

I guess the effect could be better if the performer only hands out his props for examination if the audience request for it themselves. It seems more impromptu and real that way. Instead of offering every single thing for examination and making non-suspicious looking items look suspicious.


Sometimes not everything can be examined, usually the props are partly examinable only. The majority of borrowed object for doign impromptu magic are examinable though. If you are to ask your audience for a sharpie then they shouldn't have bring one with them. Perhaps that's maybe the reason why Liu emphasise anything he brings.

Just my thought as well.

Bob
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Bob
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