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trickychaz Special user West Virginia 549 Posts 
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I had a long article written, and it was accidentally deleted before posting, so I cant remember everything I said but it was good stuff.
Short and Sweet What is your opinions, viewpoints etc and how can we put a stop to what he is NOT doing for those of us whom really put time into all other aspects of magic? Chaz |
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WilburrUK Veteran user 389 Posts
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My personal opinion is that the best thing you can do is to to concentrate on improving your own performance and stop worrying about him (Chaz, I don't mean to imply that your performance is anything less than exemplary, I'm talking in general terms).
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Aaron Little Loyal user Lexington KY 263 Posts
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I had to go to google just to see who he was.
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trickychaz Special user West Virginia 549 Posts
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On 2008-12-05 16:42, WilburrUK wrote: Where are you getting that I do not put enough concentration into my own work? I have worked really hard on my show, and it is paying off each performance. As a matter a fact I just finished a fantastic performance for the United States Military today! This guy is revealing tricks that need to be purchased in order to learn. (vanishing/ appearing canes candles, dove pans, the list is to long) and it is all avaliable for public viewing curiosity seekers. So why am I posting this? Because we do as magicians work really hard and put a great deal of concentration into our work, and only to have it destroyed by this guy lame ass personality and non entertaining abilities. It simply needs to stop! Chaz |
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trickychaz Special user West Virginia 549 Posts
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One thing is for sure Aaaron no one will find you on google until you get that website link up!
Chaz |
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gaddy Inner circle Agent of Chaos 3554 Posts
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The guy's just a tool. There's no stopping him (he's clearly beyond reason) short of doing something horrible and/or illegal, so... Best not to lose any sleep over it.
Many people have produced mocking and insulting videos on youtube in response to his idiotic exposing antics, but to little avail. (other than our amusement) Some fools revel in infamy. For a while. And then...
*due to the editorial policies here, words on this site attributed to me cannot necessarily be held to be my own.*
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WilburrUK Veteran user 389 Posts
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On 2008-12-05 23:04, trickychaz wrote: Chaz, I though (but obviously wrongly), that I made it clear I was NOT specifically refering to you, but meant magicians in general (myself included). Yes, the guy's a jerk and what he does is wrong, but like you said, you're doing fine regardless. What I meant was that magicians in general, stand to gain more by ignoring him and investing time in improving their own performances rather than trying to stop someone that no member of their audience is likely to ever hear of. Once again I am not assuming or implying anything about your own work or how much effort you put in. |
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Aaron Little Loyal user Lexington KY 263 Posts
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Thanks for the heads up Chaz. I make that typo so often one would think I would know to look for it.
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trickychaz Special user West Virginia 549 Posts
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On 2008-12-05 16:42, WilburrUK wrote: No you should go back and read what you posted. You said......the best thing "YOU" can do....not "US" But my point in this post was not to start a war, but I can agree that it is very important for us to put a lot of concentration in our own work. I also however think that their is a matter here that magicians should pay attention to. Meaning if you run into this guy at a convention, one of his shows etc then pay him no respect. Chaz |
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MickeyPainless Inner circle California 6065 Posts
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I highly doubt this clown would ever show his face at a convention! Other than a cheesy kids party that some friend of his mommy unfortunately gave him, I wouldn't imagine he gets many bookings!
FWIW Chaz, I read WilburrUK's post exactly as he intended (in general) and with no inference toward you! |
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trickychaz Special user West Virginia 549 Posts
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Great!!! I am sure we all (or at least hope) that we put a lot of concentration into our own work.
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WilburrUK Veteran user 389 Posts
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OK so I apologise. I should have said "we" and "our". I do however stand by the sentiment of my post.
Cheers, Wilburr. |
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Jeff Corn Inner circle Las Vegas 1190 Posts
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Chaz, I hope you don't take things that personally all the time. I'm with Wilburr in that magicians should just practice more and stop worrying about this guy. There's nothing to do to stop him, but no one hears about the site until other magicians bring it up.
Yes, that is my real name. Yes, I am a real person. No, you probably won't agree with me.
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trickychaz Special user West Virginia 549 Posts
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Hey Cool! That is what this post is about others opinions on this guy. Not about how personable I am.
Posted: Dec 8, 2008 5:28pm The term "YOU" that wilburruk used in his above post was taken the wrong way by myself, and I do apologize. After all David J. Castle did teach me how to use a dove pan properly! I posted this in reference to anyone that may know him personally, maybe was once his mentor, and was curious to know what others opinions were of him. Believe me this when I say I haven't lost any sleep over it, and plan not to. I can admit to not concentrating on my own work until recently "due to a magic high" and now practice nightly for my manipulation dove act, and have also put more thought into my show (which has paid off recently) P.S. why does it seem like everyone here on the Café has to do nothing but apologize to people? Aren't we suppose to be on here to help each other, and protect our art? Chaz Posted: Dec 8, 2008 5:32pm Wilbur I can see a point here though! If we continue to mention him on the Café and other forums then it only promotes what he does? No harm meant, and I understand where you are comming from after your second post. Thanks Chaz |
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Jeff Corn Inner circle Las Vegas 1190 Posts
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Absolutely. No worries man, it happens to the best of us.
Yes, that is my real name. Yes, I am a real person. No, you probably won't agree with me.
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michaelmystic2003 Inner circle 3085 Posts
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ODE TO J. CASTLE
Oh David J., oh David J., How you brighten up my day Your hair and glasses are so Edited But you don't care, it's all ok... Because you have millions and a PHD. Your presentations are so bland Lost cards are found on your command You have 25 feet of streamer in your hand Why is that? Well, you just can... Because you have millions and a PHD. Your website is LearnMagicTricks Where magic is exposed in just a few clicks Those who post are exposure [edited] but it doesn't matter, you redneck hick... Because you have millions and a PHD. Respected by magi, you are not But according to Mommy, you are hot. You expose magic a heck of a lot If you walked into a magic shop, you'd be shot. Say goodbye to your millions and PHD.
Learn more about my upcoming book of close up magic and theory SYNTHESIS & SECRETS: A Magic Book in Four Acts: https://www.michaelkrasworks.com/synthesis-secrets
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trickychaz Special user West Virginia 549 Posts
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Lol
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Pauldela Special user U.K 882 Posts
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Trickychaz stop being a friggen tool.
Willbur cleary stated he was talking in genral, don't take it so personally. |
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trickychaz Special user West Virginia 549 Posts
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Dude where were you 2 weeks ago when that was cleared up? from the looks of it you really know what you are talking about so...nah maybe shouldn't take advice from you.
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Clinton W. Gray Regular user 101 Posts
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Never heard of the guy...
Why is he important?
Clinton W. Gray
Magician in Vancouver BC |
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