On 2009-08-22 22:59, magic4545 wrote:
To potential buyers and performers,

I am in support of this effect, completely. Even as Peter's competition, I want this piece in my repertoire, and I have just ordered this to support Peter's creativity, livelihood and to show general support for this piece.

Please accept my apologies for any possible second guessing that this may cause you as a potential buyer.

I'm putting my money where my mouth is. It's a tough economy, and I want anyone who has any questions about spending their money on this piece to order soon and support this kind of creative thinking. If you're on the fence, come on off and put this in your arsenal.

http://www.masterofillusions.ca

And throw a "Sacred" into the basket when you're checking out... Scotty has some upgrades and improvements in store for you, as well.

Sincerely,

Jimmy Fingers
http://www.magellanlevitation.com
(832)755-6781

On 2009-08-25 14:09, Peter Loughran wrote:
Magicfreak: It is unfair for you to presume our produciton costs, espicially without actually owning the prop. The ONE levitation is priced very fairly in our opinion. This is also the price we need to price it at to make it the least bit worth our time to build them. Anything less, and we might aswell just have never marketed it. The price is what it is, you are also paying for the intellectual property.

A trick value is only cheap or inexpensive to the specific individual, meaning what you will get out of it. If it is just to amuse your friends, then yes it might be an expensive purchase for you. If it is to show potiential clients that gets you bookings over and over again, well then it may be worth much more than the asking price.

Now with all that said, from a business perspective, you must keep in mind that we must also be able to price products to be able to be sold distributors for 60% OFF retail or direct to magic shops for 40% OFF retail. Also, just by deciphering a method, will not give you complete insight to production costs. You have to remember that these are not mass produced but built by hand, with a number of different material costs as well as labour costs. Not to mention you must also consider the time and money we have invested in the research and development. You must also consider that we are an actual business with other costs directly related to the produciton of this product that include, advertising, markteting, graphic design, printing, packaging, web desing, special tooling, regular tooling, taxes, the costs of hydro and power to run our shop, shipping, transportation costs and the list goes on and on. Bottom line is the price is set to include and cover all of our expenses, and for our labour and materials. While I wish I could put out magic for free, or for no profit, the reality is, we are a business, and we must make money to survive.

But I can tell you, that we do not get rich off of this product.

If you would like to learn more about the reality of the business side of magic, I highly recommend you take a look at my new book 'Creation'. It will surely enlighten you, as far as what it actually takes to put a product on the market, and the costs and time associated with it. According your statement above, I think you will be shocked at whats actually involved.

What do you mean by some indian guy? Can you explain this comment?

Also where is your web site? We would like to look at it and see the reason that you make such a massive profit. Is it the pictures, the copy or what. Who did you web site? What is it that you sell?

I am always looking for a better way to advertize.

Ray

On 2009-08-27 09:07, hendramagic wrote:
No problemo if you can expose your site we gladd to see your site . no matter bad site or good site. don't worry we don't judge you anything. My site is bad too but a lot to see to buy something. hehe GBU

On 2009-08-27 09:57, hendramagic wrote:
Wow I see your site, very fast, simple, nice. Good Product. We support you. we love magic 2.