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Mr. Ray Loyal user 234 Posts |
Hello everyone! So I just wanted to ask you that how many of you can read clean taggs? I'm thinking of releasing a notebook/book about 2011 with tagg writing. Also how many of you enjoy reading taggs or do them yourself? Thank you for your interest!
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rossmacrae Inner circle Arlington, Virginia 2475 Posts |
Ugly and annoying.
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Mr. Ray Loyal user 234 Posts |
Ok! Thank's for the reply!
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Cliffg37 Inner circle Long Beach, CA 2491 Posts |
I am a high school teacher, I consider tagging to be vandalism.
That being said, it all depends on where the work is done. A sanctioned mural in tagger style can show off good artwork. Tagging someone Else's property, or city property is a crime.
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
I am an artist, designer and illustrator. I agree that tagging and graffiti art CAN be a beautiful expression of art. However, that is if it is controlled. By this I mean getting involved in doing it for a city mural program. or do what some I know have done. You start to take your art and apply it to canvas or board and display it that way. This way it is art that can be sold and framed.
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Dr. Delusion Special user Eugene, Oregon. 733 Posts |
For my day job I work for the City. I have to spend a lot of my time removing everything from spray paint to felt marker taggings all over the place. I'll admit some of them are very good artist's. I remember once I came across a fantasic job of a spray painting of Mickey Mouse. The only problem was that he was flipiping you off with both hands. We have areas for taggers to put stuff up with out getting in trouble, but that area gets very little use. But to ansew your Question, I have a hard time making out any of the writing.
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
I think some of it CAN be quite good. My problem is WHERE it is being done. Place it on a canvas or board or do a mural art with the cities mural program. Those are avenues where you can do it right.
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Mr. Ray Loyal user 234 Posts |
I was thinking of applying Tagg text to my upcoming magicbook. I'd include a seperate paper with the alphabets in tagg and normal so if there's a letter you can't read you can check it. the tag would be clean ( Very minimal tagg amount. Almost mixture of normal writing and tag.) So it is in a book not on a wall
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
There are some mural painters who are talented, taggers are vandals, it isn't art, isn't artistic, it is damage to property and reflective of a criminal element. Ben, by chance is your goal to be able to produce enough 'products' to avoid working a straight job? Many do it but I wonder because why else would anyone produce a book on scribling on walls?
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Rupert Bair Inner circle ? 2179 Posts |
I have only seen one person make graffiti art and that is Banksy an Enigma himself. His political statements, popular culture and well thought out concept pieces appear all over Bristol and London on the sides of peoples houses, government properties and all kinds of weird and wonderful places, I used to love taking a walk into the city to see his masterpieces.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banksy Local governments can't decide half of the time whether to keep his art as national heritage or to whitewash over it. Now a days he's becoming a name for himself and many big Hollywood names want commissioned pieces from him and are paying thousands for it. |
RicHeka Inner circle 3999 Posts |
I am an Artist/Crafter
Graffiti is outright vandalism and NOT Art.It is a blight on society.There may be a few who have some innate talent, but instead prefer to fill their personal inadaquacy by painting ugly fat letters all over the place.That is not ART If I was in charge...I would fine them or their parents heavily and force them to to perform a couple of hundred hours of graffiti removal...then put them on probation so if they get caught again...they will have three blank walls look at. Rich |
thorndyke Regular user Canada 147 Posts |
Permission was given to paint on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. When you do it on my garage wall, bus stop bench, or anywhere you don't own or get previous permission for it is a crime.
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Rupert Bair Inner circle ? 2179 Posts |
If you knew you could get thousands and thousands of dollars for the graffiti you found on your house due to the artist being considered a genius, would it be okay?
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
Note there is a difference between a person who does murals on walls using spray paint and a tagger. The person who does murals is often very talented and their work is legitimate art while a tagger is a pure vandel. The ground inbetween the two ranges from ugly murals to fancy signitures.
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Mr. Ray Loyal user 234 Posts |
I'm doing a magic book on coin sleight.. I just decided to hand-write the book with clean tagg so it's pretty minimal tagg. If tagg at all. So I'm not doing a book for graffiti. just a magic book with the texture little tagg-style.
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JRob Veteran user Central South Carolina 395 Posts |
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On 2008-12-15 19:38, Rupert Bair wrote: No, it would not be okay. If it is done without the owner's permission then it is an act of vandalism, period. If I knew who did I would file both criminal and civil complaints to seek restitution for having my house put right. Being an "artist" does not make anything s/he sees a canvas.
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EsnRedshirt Special user Newark, CA 895 Posts |
Quote: Besides, what would you do with it anyway? Knock the wall out and sell it on eBay?On 2008-12-16 15:07, JRob wrote:
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Rupert Bair Inner circle ? 2179 Posts |
Yup, many people try to steal Banksy's work from walls, usually with a chisel and hammer, ebay wouldn't be the ideal place to sell it, you want a specialist art dealer to help you get your £4000-£1000000
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Patrick Differ Inner circle 1540 Posts |
There is a difference between art and tagging. Art is what Picasso did. Tagging is what a dog does when he pees on a tree.
Is it a question of art? Sure... if you believe that "expression" is art. I don't. Art makes people think. Art is enduring. Taggs get painted over at the first opportunity. The "tagging" counter-culture places no value on other people's property. They consider it their own. It isn't. The real society considers it vandalism at best, and felony property damage at worst. That's what the coffee smells like.
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