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Maxum Regular user 126 Posts |
I just saw this on Precision Website it looks really good!
Here is a link: http://precisionmagicman.com/pk_bills1.htm |
Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts |
It looks very spooky. Is this the Café's own gifted "Ustaad" ( Narendra ) behind this?
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been" ..........John Greenleaf Whittier |
Judah Vee Special user of the JV Naughty Vanish.... 884 Posts |
That it is Chris. And yes it is Ustaad (Narendra)
I don't care how fast or slow you are.... As long as I am faster.. -J-
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The Mac Inner circle 1982 Posts |
Energy bills vs this?
whats the difference? |
Judah Vee Special user of the JV Naughty Vanish.... 884 Posts |
To be truthful after watching the demos: I have NO clue. they look the same. I am sure AG and Narendra will be on here and might provide some info. There was some banter on the other thread for AG's effect. But it seemed resolved so they might be different means to the ends.
I don't care how fast or slow you are.... As long as I am faster.. -J-
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papawemba Special user 656 Posts |
Personally I think there is 3 differences :
* Movement is wider with Narendra PK Bills & Vibe * Bill goes back and forth with Narendra PK Bills & Vibe * Narendra PK Bills & Vibe is cheaper Nicolas |
The Mac Inner circle 1982 Posts |
Yes I think price will be the main tipping point for many. Energy Bill is a bit pricey especially when theres competition.
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VcosNJ Inner circle 1179 Posts |
This should be interesting.
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MagicBrent Inner circle 2574 Posts |
I would think there would be some differences as both have appeared supportive of each others efforts in these threads regarding this effect...
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ipe Special user 513 Posts |
I've preordered "Energy Bill", so I hope there are some differences with "PK Bills". Ustaad, Andrew, can you two tell us something more about?
What would a real mindreader do?
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A.G. Special user Vancouver- Canada 960 Posts |
Here is a message I reacieved from " Precision magic "
Posted: Wed, Dec 17th, 2008 - 11:59 AM (EST) Dear Sir, We have a similar effect to your bill effect that we are considering releasing next year and were concerned that our method might be the same. I am not sure about how to go about talking to you about this issue. I just didn't want to step on your toes if our methods are the same. I don't want to cause problems but I don't want to put out a product that seems like I ripped someone off. I know this may be direct and somewhat unprofessional but If you would just give me the basic idea of your method I could determine if our method is too close to yours. I don't know of any other clear way to determine if were too close or what. If you have any other idea about how we might resolve this I would be open to suggestions. If you’re not concerned about this and you do not wish to respond, then I will assume that our methods are completely different and will move ahead with our release. I hope that you will receive this PM in the spirit it’s given. Not looking for trouble only clarity. Respectfully, David Mann Precision Magic Man AND I RESPONDED 30 minutes later..... A.G. Posted: Wed, Dec 17th, 2008 - 12:36 PM (EST) Energy Bill will be available in the next week or so. I will send you a copy of the dvd. If you have created an effect similar to mine, the odds are preaty good you have discovered my secret. The basic idea is ******************************** the bill. I have had Energy bill for 8 years and only a handful of people knew about it. The method is original and created by myself. Thanks for your professionalism in the matter. AG SO THEY AGREE NOT TO RELEASE THE KNOCK OFF !!! Dmann e Posted: Wed, Dec 17th, 2008 - 12:40 PM (EST) Thanks for getting back with me so quickly. I will hold off on our release until I review the Dvd. I am not so sure our methods are the same, but I look forward to seeing the DVD. If our methods are the same, I will bow out and give a good review of your product. Thanks for your time, Dave AND THEN WITHIN ONE DAY THEY RELEASE THE CHEAP KNOCK OF>>> the difference is you may get the basic idea, but none of the real work, SAD INDEED. My guess is anyone that buys this ripp off wil still need the real work. Happy Holidays....AG
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A.G. Special user Vancouver- Canada 960 Posts |
Oh yeah Ustaad message to me :
"I do understand that you have a commercial interest here whereas I have none. However being magicians we should both be aware that true magicians never share each others secrets & the profession of magic would never grow if everyone started guessing & sharing (openly) others effect(s). " SO I OFFER TO SEND HIM A FREE DVD ! Posted: Sun, Dec 14th, 2008 - 8:59 PM (EST) Thank you for your kind response, you are a gentalmen. As stated I came up with this 8 years ago and only a few people know the true workings. I would love to send you my dvd please give me your address. Thank you,and best wishes, AG HIS RESPONSE >>>> Ustaasd Hi Andrew, Thank you so much for your kind offer. However it will not be just to accept this, given the number of years and hard work gone in. I would like to purchase the DVD as & when it’s up for sale. I too sincerely reciprocate your feelings & friendship. Thank you. Kind regards, Narendra SEEMED LIKE SUCH A NICE GUY.... I am very upset these crooks did this to me, and you. I know many will still buy this from these two and not get what really makes this effect strong, instead you will only get a peice of the puzzle, not even the full method! and NONE of the presentation, or details that had made me keep this a secret for so long. on the flipside, Thanks to thse that still intend to support my work and that have preordered this effect from ME, The CREATOR. Andrew Gerard
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The Mac Inner circle 1982 Posts |
Ouch! I do feel a sorry for Andrew as up until he mentioned and showed his effect there was no talk of anything similar.
This could become a good case point for future occurances like this, how do the rest of you feel? |
Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
As posted in the other thread:
Quote:
On 2008-12-19 12:40, Tony Iacoviello wrote: |
A.G. Special user Vancouver- Canada 960 Posts |
Ideally the best thing you can do is not post a thing on this thread.
Thanks for your support, if you want to post more, do so on the Energy bill thread. again, please do not give these creeps any more attention, POST NOTHING HERE. best, Andrew Gerard
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