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Hey All,

Has anyone tried forcing a patina to their copper cups by using some of the methods one can find by goggling? I found one that uses baking soda; the others are scary chemical methods.

Thanks,
Bruce
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I'm no expert, but practicing & performing with them will get your cups to patina pretty quickly.
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Hi Chad,

I have been using a new set of Cups everyday for the past month as well as just handling them throughout the day. Nothing changed on them, just as shiny as if they were new. I suspect where I live is just too dry this time of year. Even the snow turns to powder. Last week I let the Cups sit in the shower and covered them with plastic bags… only then have they begun to change color.

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Bruce
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Hi Bruce,

I once heard of a gentleman who slept with his new cups (when his wife wasn't around of course), and I seem to recall it worked for him...oh, wait, darn it, I just remembered who it was.

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Geoffrey,
I guess this set of Cups just doesn’t do it for me. A local artisan suggested that I urinate on them... for now I just can't embrace the suggestion.

Maybe I should send them to your part of the world.

I hope all is going well for you, always good to speak with you G,
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Bruce,

It's so hot here today -- approaching 40 degrees celsius -- that I'd only have to LOOK at them and they'd tarnish to your satisfaction...why don't you fly down and we'll see what we can do?

Urination is wisely avoided, I have heard.

All best,

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First make sure the are not clear coated
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Geoffrey,
That sounds good to me… it has been 15-17 degrees below 0 here. 3 more months of cold and then spring.

Walid,
They are not clear coated; I have never seen such a stubborn set of Cups. Oh by the way they are Squatty 2 Cups.

Thanks,
Bruce
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Wow, my Squatty 2 cups gained a very nice patina very quickly.
I got them a few months ago, it was still very warm in this part of the country, and humid.

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I've only had good luck with commercial patina formulas. I buy a small bottle at Home Depot for about $5. It doesn't always go on evenly, it's not anything like paint. How evenly I apply it really doesn't have much effect on the end result, it's how it turns afterward. A very thorough cleaning and degreasing, followed by a hot water rinse is best.

The chemical reacts more quickly when the cups are warm. Clean the cups, apply the mix (use gloves, otherwise you'll have green under your fingernails for a week)let stand until you can see a yellowish haze start to form. Rinse well and allow to set overnight. The next morning the cups will have changed colors again, sometimes not very evenly.

Repeat the process until the cups start evening out, or until your wife evicts you from her kitchen.
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My mini-cups tend to Patina faster than the regular cups, is there any truth to this?
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@madkiki: Maybe because they have more contact to your skin?
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The first thing is to do what Dave V suggests, clean and DEGREASE the cups. Use a good liquid detergent. If the cups don't squeak when you run your finger along the metal, they still aren't degreased.
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I've used several products to age cups. If you're going to use one of these, the advice from Dave & Bill is very sound if you're going to get an even colour (though impurities within the cups may still mean that the patina is not completely even).

I would say that the patina produed by the chemical methods is never as natural-looking as when the cups age naturally through handling. If you can be patient, then just using the cups will likely produce a better result. Whether you want to sleep with them is another matter...

A while ago, Rick Brooks (I think) suggested rubbing the cups on your head/forehead and massaging. Natural oils from skin stimulate the formation of the patina. I tried this and it worked very well. It means having to stop using those manly skincare products for a while, though. Smile
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Forcing a patina is kind of a weird concept to me.
Basically forcing a patina is trying to make the cups look as if they have been used a lot,
...why not just actually use them a lot?
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Jconstans, I agree... It's the same in the guitar world, although I was guilty of tinking of relicing a guitar when I used to play but I couldn't being myself to do it. I am sure Bill would have similar stories from the banjo world...
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The reason I would want to force a patina is… that I want them to look worn, Cups just look cool that way. I am a hobbyist, so I don’t perform with them everyday; however they are handled as much as I can. They are turning color now that I am placing them in the shower each morning and letting them sit until evening (not green but growing brown).

Don’t laugh at me, but other Cups have turn quickly for me by sleeping with them at night. These squatty 2 Cups are another story.

Thanks for all your replies,
Bruce
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Quote:
On 2009-01-08 10:45, BCS wrote:

Don’t laugh at me, but other Cups have turn quickly for me by sleeping with them at night. These squatty 2 Cups are another story.



Bruce,

Maybe you're losing your touch with the women. Smile

Either that or the Squatty 2's are playing hard to get.
;)

Wave your wand around and show 'em your balls....maybe the Squatty's will come around....Smile
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