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twistedace Inner circle philadelphia 3772 Posts 
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Don't rush to put something out just to put something out. Test it in the real world for a few years. I have some material that I'm considering releasing that I have been using professionally for 5 years. All of my magic friends tell me I should, but still I'm reluctant. I want my material to be as perfect as possible and well tested before I release it. That's the way I feel magic should be released - after testing and time.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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Have you performed this for a lay audience?
John
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts
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On 2009-01-18 11:50, twistedace wrote: I agree with twistedace. I have materials that I have been testing over 20 years and I am still not satisfied yet to release them. |
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dpe666 Inner circle 2895 Posts
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On 2009-01-18 12:12, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: I have been performing this for lay audiences for about a year now. Lay audiences are fooled. Magicians aren't so fooled because of their prior knowledge of the Cups & Balls. Can someone tell me who originally wrote the Rub-A-Dub-Dub patter?  |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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On 2009-01-18 16:17, dpe666 wrote: And how are you finding the entertainment value? Most of the comments here are about taste. John
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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dpe666 Inner circle 2895 Posts
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Lay audiences seem to love it. It is what they walk away talking about.
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Turk Inner circle Portland, OR 3546 Posts
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On 2009-01-18 16:17, dpe666 wrote: Dave, I love this routine!! On his "Here I Go Again" DVD set, Volume 1, Bill Malone comments that this routine was originally written by Jack Bateman (7 of the first 8 stanzas; the Michael Skinner addition is the 6th stanza and it starts out: "So he looked at the mast and decided at last to try to go over the top...."). Lance Pierce added the last 4 stanzas to the current 12 stanza poem. (The Lance Pierce addition starts out with the stanza "And so, embarrassed again, these three old men...."). Hope this helps. And, if I am inaccurate in any of the foregoing, go see Bill Malone. (grin) Mike P.S. I think that Bill also mentioned on the DVD that Phil Willmarth now owns the rights to this routine but that Phil graciously gave Bill permission to perform and explain the routine on this DVD series.
Magic is a vanishing Art.
This must not be Kansas anymore, Toto. Eschew obfuscation. |
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dpe666 Inner circle 2895 Posts
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On 2009-01-18 18:43, Turk wrote: Thank you for the reference. In this case, I don't feel I need permission as my routine is totally different except for the patter, which I have changed quite a bit anyway. |
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Turk Inner circle Portland, OR 3546 Posts
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Thank you for the reference. In this case, I don't feel I need permission as my routine is totally different except for the patter, which I have changed quite a bit anyway. Hi, Dave. I wasn't intending to imply such. I mentioned Phil only for completness of explanation and for a primary source for the routine in case you were not satisfied with my exposition. My apologies if my post seemed to imply that you did not have the right to perform the effect. Such implication was never my intention. Best, Mike
Magic is a vanishing Art.
This must not be Kansas anymore, Toto. Eschew obfuscation. |
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hpcman New user NYC 68 Posts
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David,
I think the cups you are using are too small for your hands. A larger cup with more weight in it would make some of the moves easier and look much nicer. Ben |
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dpe666 Inner circle 2895 Posts
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Which cups would you recommend? I have a set of Morrisey (at least I think that they are Morrisey) Cups that might work. I will have to try them.
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