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YousifS
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That's true. However, when I let them handle the cards, I notice more astonishment.

Thanks!
jr_illusion
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I just got this and it's a great trick. I was a little disappointed at first when all I got was 2 pages stapled together. But when I tried the trick out it was awesome. You can't beat the simplicity of the trick. And its a killer effect. That said, I don't know if it should have been published. It seems like its something that should be in a magazine or on a website. That's just me though
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I got Impression last week and I love it so much.

In my variation, I let another spectator shuffle the deck first before dealing the cards. It got great reaction.

Thanks Yousif.
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I also came up with a chick change in the handling so that they could shuffle it.

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I received my copy of "Impression" today, and I must say, it's really neat.

I really like it a lot, and I WILL use this.
The manuscript was also very clear and easy to follow with photographs, which makes it
very easy to learn.

Yousif includes also some alternative handlings as for the "Move", aswell as some other bonus material.

I like the simplicity of the effect, and because of that, It's really hard to beat.

It's a KILLER effect. Well done.


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Putting the card back in the deck and shuffling it makes absolutely no sense at all. If the spectator asks "Why did you have me put it back and shuffle just take it out again?" what would you say? The only way it would make sense is if you had the spectator choose a card face up freely and it turned out to be the card they signed on the back previously. Otherwise, why put it back?
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First off, THANKS EVERYONE FOR THE GREAT COMMENTS. Smile Smile



Hello Ixnay

The other posts before explain why.
Its NOT necessary for the card to go back in. However, laymen just like the routine I give with the manuscript. If you noticed, the posts before tell of those who actually had better results when using the routine given.

Im going to quote Chapelley :

"Also I like the card being put back in the pack before being revealed.It adds a bit of drama. "

And that's exactly what it does.

CardFreak wrote:

"However, for laymen, I can use other force instead, but with your presentation, they still like it. "

So as you can see, it does get better results.

I have never had a spectator ask "Why did you put it back in?" Not only is there nothing suspicious about it (because they insert it back in and shuffle), they don't even have time to think about it. They are shocked at what just happened, and that is all that's on thier mind.

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Putting the card back in the pack is a preference thing,it's still very strong.I like a bit more time before the revelation to talk about the prediction that I had made earlier that day.Also the card display looks good when the spectator sees the one card in the spread deck with writing on it.Then comes the cruncher. The display also looks better with a blank deck. Do it as you wish.

Chappelly
Andrew E. Miller
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I do the same Chappelly. I put their card back in and reitterate the fairness of the effect. I have them go through and find their card and tell "As you do this, you will notice all the other cards don't have any ink or signatures on them." Kind of like hitting two birds with one stone. Otherwise you would kill a moment where they handle the cards and end up looking through the cards again.

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HI,
I tried the original handling on about 30 tables for ordanary lay people and it plays OK. but it does play better and more logicaly AND THERE IS NO NEED TO GET THE CARD SIGNED if you proceed as follows I will be vauge to avoid exposure. first instead of just one card and the force card I have 4 cards and the force card as my set up.
I deal cards to the table until they say stop alowing them to go on or give me some back. I then turn the dealt portion face up to show that they are all different and as I am turning them over I put the deck down making the move. i remove the selection letting them put there hand on it. and show two or three cards further that they would have picked had they gone on. now let them turn the card under their hand over and you will kill them. it is also far more direct an effect.................................. he or I dealt the cards I stopped anywhere and I stoped on the only card thet said you will pick me.

For those who choose to play it as per the original that's fine. do what you feel is right for you I am not saying it is wrong or you should not have the card reinserted and shuffled. But for those who like the magic as direct as possible with out being illogical (even if most people do not notice) then do not let it put you off the effect it is not a required part of the effect to get the card put back in.
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YousifS
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Nice Review Phillip, glad you like it and use your own Handling.

However, the illogical part you were describing isn't illogical. We all KNOW we don't have to put it back in the deck. I put it back just to add some suspense and drama, and as Andrew said, hit 2 birds with one stone. I think it makes for a better feel of the effect.

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However, the illogical part you were describing isn't illogical. We all KNOW we don't have to put it back in the deck. I put it back just to add some suspense and drama, and as Andrew said, hit 2 birds with one stone. I think it makes for a better feel of the effect.

Hi,
I think we will have to agree to dissagree, because to me although it might add suspence and drama (though I don't see it) it certainly does make the effect Ilogical and far less direct take it from someone with a MENSA IQ of 142. The most logical and direct effect would be ..... the spectator deals the cards down or simly reaches in the deck and takes one out turns it over and it is the force card.. Now we are not real magicains so we need to alter it somewhere but the further you go away from that plot the more illogical and less direct the effect becomes in my opinion the fact that it adds suspence and drama are performer considerations not spectator ones. the spectator is not going to think "why did he have me take a card sign it and put it back in then find it again to show it was the one with writing on it? Oh yes it was to add drama and suspense ! they will just think that you had to do it for the trick to work even if as we know (but the specs don't) that it is not required. though as I say you do it as it suits you
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The reason they wont think it for the trick to work is because they insert it in the deck, and shuffle to thier hearts content. Theres nothing suspicious about that. Its not like you had to insert it into a special place.

I think for someone to even think that it works by inserting it into the deck, he would also think about where and how.

But, that doesn't happen. Smile

But we all do have different ways to present every trick we do. So put it in the deck or not, it will still work. Smile
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We could argue back and forth forever on the back in the deck option. I reckon a magician might have the card put back in the deck, and I have tried it this way but people say "you're really good with cards". i.e. they think of sleight of hand.

A mentalist wouldn't have the card put back in the deck as this is superfluous to the efffect - it makes the effect so much cleaner and baffling to not do so. The spectators then consider the effect to be much, much, stronger - and real Smile

So magicians feel free to play it as a magic trick, us mentalists will stick to playing it like mentalism.
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I've found the strongest way to do this is to have the card counted to by the spectator, they sign their name, and place it back in the middle of the deck. WIthout shuffling, I spread the cards face up on the table and open a prediction that says for example "8 of hearts". I have them pull out the 8 of hearts and flip it over. So far that has been the best method for me, but I'm still working on it
YousifS
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Yes! That is the effect that describes the trick in the market, and its the one I usually perform!

However,

I do think that just flipping the card over without putting it into the deck is REALLY strong, but I also think that it putting back in the deck is strong as well. Both are extremely effective.

Im glad to see that everyone has adjusted the trick so that it fits thier own styles of performing, and I hope it goes well for all of you!

Thanks! Smile
jr_illusion
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Thanks a lot Yousif for such a great trick
marko
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A cool application of this, YousifS. I once used this same method for an any card at any number routine.
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Okay,

I recieved Impression a while ago, and upon a cursory read through, was unimpressed. I thought to myself "There is really nothing new here. I have been doing similar effects for years."

The operative word was SIMILAR. I read through it again. And again. And again. Not that I needed to learn it, I have known 'the move' for years. I just wanted to envision the effect. As my mental picture became clearer, I started to like it. I went out, and tryed it on a few people. I tried it as written, and I tried it with some personal changes. It kills. It really does.

The manuscript was reasonably well done. The description and photos were clear, and easy to learn from.

The 'move' is covered by some natural misdirection.

And now for the big debate. To put the card back in the deck or not. I am of the camp to believe that the replacement of the card is somewhat illogical, or superfluous. The good news is IT IS NOT INTEGRAL TO THE EFFECT. You don't have to do it if you don't like it. While it can add drama, or suspense, it also lengthens what should be a direct effect. I don't put it back, but that is just me.

All in all, this is a very slick, very direct effect, regardless of whether you play it as a 'magic trick' or a mentalism occurance. Even though I already knew and use the move, it is the presentation, or framework, the way the actual prediction is revealed that is new here. And that is what I like. A lot. A simple, self contained miracle.

Reccommended.

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sludge, mentalism and magic.....I disagree with what you said about them saying, "You're good with cards." That is clearly a speculation from a magicians mind. They might think that of course, but the whole point is having them take it out and looking to see the other cards are free of ink. Of course you ask them to check. Like I said, you have them handle the deck, which makes it seem ungaffed, which it is. Plus, they see that the other cards don't having markings on them. This is the line I use,

"Go ahead and take the card you signed out and as you do this compare it to the other cards. The other cards will have no marklings on them."

On a side note, there is something really bothering me about some of the stuff said about Impression. This has been discussed on the Café before and I will share it again. Many people complain about a trick when they get it claiming that the moves and props are nothign new and have been used before. This is the case with Impression. All you guys who complain about that have to realize you are not buyiong the sleights or the moves. You are buying Yousif's hard work on getting this effect just right, the timed misdirection, the personal prediction, presentation, and the handling. You are not buying PROPS. You are not buying SLEIGHTS. You are buying an audience tested routine that has been custom done.

Anyway, I'll stop talking now.
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