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How much examining should a spectator be doing with your bottle? Why should anyone suspect that the coin in the bottle is not the one that you slapped into the bottom of the bottle? I always hold the bottle when the spectator looks at the coin in the bottle. They can look all that they want to but I'm holding the bottle. A much greater concern is the release of the coin from the bottle. I use a double-sided small brown paper bag. The original coin is already in one side of the bag as I hold the bottle upside down in the bag. They can hear it drop and can remove the original coin themselves. Sorry if I posted too much here.
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While in the bottle, keep the FC moving but casually show both hands empty. Make sure your final switch is totally convincing and they can examine the coin as much as they like, becuase it's a real coin.
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I have a Tango 50p internal coin which is better than an average f--ding coin for coin in bottle as it is stronger than a lot of f--ding coins. The edge is better but I would not leave the face in front of the spectator as they will see what you don't want them to. I picked up the wrong f--ding 50p the other day to practise as they were both on the side. the other one was not up to the job. I would purchase further tango coins. I do not have any Johnson coins to compare. just for info, the coin is now a do--le hea--ed coin now so you can borrow a 50p from someone and the coin in the bottle will always show the same head.

One thing I was interested in was can I get Johnson coins in english coins?

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On 2009-01-26 11:29, hpcman wrote:
I recently purchased the Tango internal half dollar system. I have found this coin not to work as well, for the routine I do.

That tells ME what I needed to know. I need a new half dollar FC. Then, I saw this...

Second the Johnson profile cut is superior rather then the straight line cut of the Tango, which makes it obvious if detected that that is what the spectator is looking at. If you are using a Johnson the profile helps hide what that line really is.

Profile Cut Johnson! I've never used anything else.

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The routine I use is Lonnie Chevrie's "Two Bits in a Bottle" and it has a big impact on spectators. With this routine, the folding coin (a quarter) is never seen by spectator except while in the bottle, and the spectator is not given an opportunity to inspect the quarter closely while it is in the bottle. Instead, a real quarter is examined at the beginning of the routine, then the quarter apparently penetrates the bottle (actually the folding quarter is substituted), and then this folding quarter is removed from the bottle and very naturally switched again so that the real quarter is handed out for inspection again. The quarter is inspected twice (at beginning and end of trick) and no one suspects that the quarter in the bottle was a different one. This description makes it sound like the sleight of hand is difficult, but it is not. This trick is at the intermediate level of difficulty, but on the easy side.
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On Jan 26, 2009, Mysterioii wrote:
I have never tried it but I have wondered if you could just mix together some soft wax and maybe some graphite from a powdered pencil lead or something, then fill in the groove on a traditional rubber band one. When the band breaks just pick the wax out and replace it.

There is also a quick dry rubber called Sugru I think which comes in a variety of colours that might achieve the same. You'd have to dig it out to replace the band. I might give it a go and see.
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I don't think it needs to be examined because they should never hold the gimmick.
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You shouldn't have to worry about them seeing it. Just use attention management and you'll be fine
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Does anyone know a source for the rubber that goes in the internal system for Tangos Folding coin?


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Yes as several of you attested, the Johnson profile cut coin is the way to go. it is EXCELLENT. NO MATTER how many self promoting
3rd level coin makers tout their own biased and selfish opinions, Johnson once again shocked me with their quality in their fc.
I found I can also do the bite coin with their fc too. you have to choose a side that works best for this. I recently did this and it KILLED. I WAS NOT EXPECTING ANY REACTION LIKE THIS. the fc by johnson looked so good, there was absolutely no pressure on me for pocketing / switching. you can get away with murder with the Johnson coin. you have all day, and can do it in any sloppy way, I dare you to get caught-- to switch it before you give it to the spectator. I feel spoiled by JOhnson. with their coin I experienced the "switch that cannot fail" hehe. it is that good.
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Personally I like Michael Kaminskas coin in bottle which is excellent the coin is signed and it's that coin that actually ends up in the bottle ( well small jar really Smile )
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I use a Roy Kueppers folding half. It has a deeper groove for the rubber band, and is NOT profile cut. The edges of the groove have been beburred and sanded. The rubber band doesn't break or come off the hinge. Highly recommended.

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I remember using John Bannon's "Vaccuum Packed" and thought it was brilliant in hiding the method. I still have the little bottle described, but I'm sure it could be adapted to some thing more current. Check it out in "Smoke and Mirrors" the book (or DVD from Meir Yedid).
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