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Justin Style Inner circle 2010 Posts 
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Did you hear about the high school girls basketball team from Texas?
They played another team and beat them by a score of 100 - 0 The town folk got all upset, so the school fired the coach because he should have taken it easy on the losing team!? Texas Sports! |
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EsnRedshirt Special user Newark, CA 895 Posts
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Little League parent, there?
You don't quite have the full story. The losing team was from a school for developmentally disabled students. They probably shouldn't have been in the same league with the winning team, but I gather there weren't any other options. Anyway, the winning team utterly crushed them. Most coaches would have used the opportunity to put in less-experienced players, practice new strategies, and change up positions, rather than annihilating a team so obviously outmatched. Of course the town was a little ticked off. So the winning school offered to forfeit the game due to poor sportsmanship. The winning coach went ballistic at that suggestion. So he was let go for his poor sportsmanship. Should high-school level sports really be about cut throat victory at all costs? Or would you rather kids learn sportsmanship and fair play? Yes, I know that life isn't fair, but maybe it might be a bit better if more people had good attitudes. -Erik
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Justin Style Inner circle 2010 Posts
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True...
Like I said - Texas... |
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Vandy Grift Inner circle Milwaukee 3504 Posts
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On 2009-01-28 16:16, EsnRedshirt wrote: Does it have to be either/or? Why not, be a good sport, play fair, and play to win?
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts
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On 2009-01-28 15:37, Justin Style wrote: Justin, are you ignoring daffydoug's threads? http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......um=32&12 I'm not sure whether the town folk were all that upset. It sounds like it was mainly the trustees (or administrators) of the private Christian school that were upset. They thought that their own coach should not have dominated the other team like that. It was un-Christianlike. About the team they beat: Dallas Academy has eight girls on its varsity team and about 20 girls in its high school. It is winless over the last four seasons. The academy boasts of its small class sizes and specializes in teaching students struggling with "learning differences," such as short attention spans or dyslexia. There is no mercy rule in girls basketball that shortens the game or permits the clock to continue running when scores become one-sided. There is, however, "a golden rule" that should have applied in this contest, Edd Burleson, the director of the Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools, said last week. Both schools are members of this association, which oversees private school athletics in Texas. The story has received national attention, and the Dallas Academy team has been recognized for refusing to give up during the lopsided contest.
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EsnRedshirt Special user Newark, CA 895 Posts
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There's a difference between playing to win, and victory at all costs. The first wins games. The second gets a wrathful fastball in the face.
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Vandy Grift Inner circle Milwaukee 3504 Posts
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On 2009-01-28 16:39, EsnRedshirt wrote: That's right, there is. But you stacked the deck in your question. You gave us an option of "cut throat victory at all costs" or fair play and good sportsmanship. And that a bogus choice. It's not the only one we have. Your question, as posed, was disingenuous.
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Cholly, by golly! Loyal user 251 Posts
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This isn't the Harlem Globetrotters versus the Washington Generals.
If the "developmentally disabled" team couldn't realistically compete, they should have forfeited. Insisting that one team handicap themselves to be "fair" isn't sportsmanlike. The world is a competitive place. Getting your *** handed to you occasionally is good for the soul. |
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Josh Riel Inner circle of hell 1995 Posts
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What he said^
The people who put those kids into that bracket where such a thing could happen need to be slapped for being stupid. You don't see many NBA teams going up against those wheelchair basketball guys, for a good reason.
Magic is doing improbable things with odd items that, under normal circumstances, would be unnessecary and quite often undesirable.
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EsnRedshirt Special user Newark, CA 895 Posts
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Josh, yeah, it'd be far too humiliating when the NBA team got their butts kicked
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts
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On 2009-01-29 22:27, EsnRedshirt wrote: Ironically poor choice of words.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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Does anyone know what it means to "fire" the coach in this context?
Are US high school coaches typically hired as coaches? Or are they teachers who volunteer time to coach? Or something else? John
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Vandy Grift Inner circle Milwaukee 3504 Posts
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On 2009-01-30 10:55, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: Most of the guys I know who have coached were teachers. Sometimes they coach at a school that is different from the one the work at. Or they are teachers in that school, but they get paid additionally for the coaching. Teachers don't do much for free. At almost any level they get something for the coaching.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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Thanks Vandy. I wondered about that. In my jurisdiction, school coaches are volunteers. In some of the bigger high schools, they sometimes get a bit of release time from teaching as compensation.
So what do you suppose is meant by the firing of the coach? Was he just relieved of that one duty? Can anyone find out? I certainly hope that a teacher wasn't fired over this judgment. John
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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Quote: On 2009-01-30 11:29, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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Vandy Grift Inner circle Milwaukee 3504 Posts
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I don't know, but if I had to guess I would say he was just relieved of his coaching duties. Just a guess though.
P.S. Isn't quoting yourself a bit pretentious?
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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Say yes it is. Fortunately, it is more a sign of technical incompetence than pretentiousness (but there are other clues as to that, I'm sure).
John PS I wonder how I did that.
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Vandy Grift Inner circle Milwaukee 3504 Posts
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Lol!
"Get a life dude." -some guy in a magic forum
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Payne Inner circle Seattle 4571 Posts
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On 2009-01-30 10:55, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: When I was in High School the coaches were hired as coaches and then given classes to teach on the side. My current affairs teacher was one of the Football coaches and he was a real dim bulb. He spent most of the class time skipping over the sections of the textbook he didn't understand and reciting the Barretta slogan "If you can't pay the time then don't do the crime" Needless to say I aced the class by doing book reports on subjects beyond his comprehension. I remember getting an A on my report of "Future Shock" and I had only read the first three chapters. He also thought I was an intellectual because I had a beard. He was right of course but not because of the beard 
My High School might have been unique in this practice of hiring coaches. I certainly hope so as it didn't always work out to well. Our wrestling coach was also the drivers ed teacher and, in my senior year, he was accidentally killed by one of his wrestlers. He had convinced the hapless youth to shoot him in the shoulder to provide him with an alibi for the earlier murder of a former student. He had killed the guy in an attempt to get his wife -- who was the former dead students ex-wife -- to come back to him. Needless to say the bullet ricochet off his shoulder blade and went right through his heart, killing him instantly. The whole sad, misguided love triangle double homicide even made it into a book http://www.amazon.com/Fever-Heart-Other-......71793551
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soccergod New user 72 Posts
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I worked as an assistant coach at a school with about 2000 kids. I coached lacrosse and got paid $400. Good source of a second job.
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