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Harry Lorayne
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And thank you so much for saying so, New user. (My laugh for the day!)
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It's a great honor to talk with you Mr. Lorayne, but I think if I can only choose 3 books there is more interesting material than yours.

It's only my (New user) opinion...sorry again.
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That's not what you originally said, buddy. But no problem. Your loss. We sure as heck need your opinions here.
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Thank you for your (Old user) opinion, I appreciate it as it deserves.
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1. Giobbi--C. College
2. Mnemonica
3. Asi Wind anything
Harry Lorayne
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So - I received a few calls from magic friends saying that I shouldn't get upset over a remark - such as above (by Steganos - "I don`t like Lorayne`s stuff, sorry... ") which he made after some "just-the-opposite" remarks about my work by others. They raved "What is there not to like?" etc. Well, fact is - and please forgive the egotism - over the years literally tens of thousands of people all over the world have "overstepped" that lovely remark by raving that my "stuff" contains the BEST EVER impromptu card effects/routines/ideas/handlings, and so forth. But - that's beside the point. HERE'S THE POINT:

I started to contribute "stuff" to magic magazines back in the 1950s (Hugard's, etc. Wrote a column for a Knights of Magic magazine in the 1940s. I've written quite a few magic books, but most important - I published a best-selling monthly magic magazine (APOCALYPSE) for twenty years. I had the tallest, widest, soapbox - I could say whatever I wanted to say. And I did often say how good, great, excellent, someone else's "stuff" was/is.

But I never, EVER, publicly said that "I didn't like someone else's work." NEVER - except if I was personally involved. For example, I remember once talking about someone who included his version of one of my effects in a book. It was awful, and I said so but only about that trick, because it was MY trick. I did not say that I didn't like his "stuff."

Why in the world make a remark that could hurt someone else's sales. Not that any remark by this...person...could help or hurt my sales. Please!!

So that's the point I want to make. I never, EVER, would publicly say what that newbie said (even if I was right, KNEW what I was talking about) - nor would I allow anyone else to say something like that in one of my publications. That's why it annoyed, and annoys, me --- you don't like something - sure tell it to your magic friends, but don't say it publicly. It's a new magic world!

Needed to get this off my mind - feel better now.
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Fist of all I want to apologize to Mr. Lorayne, it's no my intention to bother you.
Maybe I should not have expressed myself so rude.
I really admire Mr. Lorayne he is a great Master Magician, great expert in memory training, writer, innovative in the art of magic and for sure a Great Person.
I promise to buy your last book AND FINALLY! Mr. Lorayne, and I after read it (and study it) will say to you my sincere opinion. I hope to put AND FINALLY! in my top 3...
Cheers! Smile
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Hurry up - be running out of copies of AND FINALLY! soon. I've put one aside for you. (And apropos of the discussion above it'd be best if you give me your opinion personally - not publicly!).
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This forum is a place for discussion, for giving opinions, sharing ideas…so if somebody doesn’t like the way it works, nobody forces him to stay here.

But on another side, Mr Lorayne is right when he said he would never say publicly he doesn’t like somebody work. Nobody would say so in front of that person, so why on this forum ? Maybe just a matter of manners. It’s easy to write anything hidden behind a screen.
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That remark by Steganos - "I don`t like Lorayne`s stuff, sorry" - brought to mind many adjectives, like "rude, insulting, unknowledgeable, unhelpful, un-called for," and so on - when said about anyone. And obviously (and I'll wait for the shouts re: my ego!) he couldn't possibly be aware of, into, know, any of the good impromptu card stuff if he "don't like Lorayne's stuff."

More thoughts about this above in a longer post of mine.
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I want to apologize again to Mr Lorayne. If the moderator wants to delete my rude comment, he can do it.

Just out of curiosity... Mr. Lorayne could you tell me wich card magic books do you like the most? (3 yours and 3 of others authors)

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Almost an impossible question to answer....

I decided to answer it based on the percentage of routines from a given book that I practice and perform regularly.

1. Cardshark by Darwin Ortiz is a clear cut winner.
2. At the Card table by Darwin Ortiz is a close second.
3. Scams and Fantasies or Lessons in Card Mastery by Darwin Ortiz are probably tied for 3rd.
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1. Afterthoughts - Harry Lorayne
2. The Card Magic Of Lepaul - Paul LePaul
3. Cardshark - Darwin Ortiz
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