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I'm one of the many people who have gotten a faulty TA set, so when I read the post by Tim Trono on the 25th page of this thread regarding the price going from $300 to $325 it sounded a bit shoddy on his part.

I truly don't mean to offend anyone by this post, and if I have I'm sorry. I just think there's something wrong with that post considering a lot of people still can't watch the sets they have bought because of bad disks. To me, Tim's post just comes across in a bad way, where making money only is of great concern for him.

BTW - I'm sure that I'll get all my replacements disks over the next few weeks, so I'm not at worried about that. Just think his post was a bit shady.

Does anyone else feel the same way or am I just being sensitive?
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I've noticed people are either absolutely loving the TA sets or want to sell them. I've realized the material in this DVD is not for every type of close-up magician. Those who like the flourishy type effects, comedy routines, effects meant to enterain, or effects meant for large groups will probably be disappointed. Nearly all of the effects were performed for a group of 5 or less people and all the effects were very simple and direct. For Paul Harris fans like myself who love the audience connection that a magical effect can bring this whole set is a dream come true and exceeded the hype. For others, if you don't like Paul Harris type effects than this may not be worth the $300 for you. To each to his/her own.
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In regards to palmtreemagic's post, isn't magic supposed to be about your audience?!? How can folks who perform close-up not find a overwhelming amount of world class material on the TA set? I think the bigger problem with TA is that so many of the effects are so strong that one may not wish to dilute it with anything before or after just one of these effects on TA.

If you're disappointed because there's really not that many new methods taught on TA or if you felt like the handling is explained a bit with the beginners in mind, then I think you're missing the point of a magic. It's not about the method and the handling, it's about the end result. This is something that TA demonstrates in depth. I do agree that there was a lot of hype before TA came out but then again there has been hype about a Paul Harris video set for years, it really was nothing new, only question everybody had in mind was when as well as hoping that it will deliver the goods. The when is now and the goods have been delivered in spades. Lot's of folks will probably find the effects ho hum but then again I'm sensing a LOT of folks don't perform all that often (family and friends do not really count by the way, unfortunate for many, but if you think about it, that's actually a blessing). Take Mac King's advice in one of the TA interviews, put in your "pilot hours" and you will then see the world in a different light.
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Lifeisgreat, sorry you felt my post was shady. It was just meant to give a heads up and nothing more. All of the problems are being taken care of immediately. Stuff happens... it's how you handle it that matters in my opinion. The duplicator just today took back all sets to trash all DVDs and rerun completely new ones so there will not be any problems as they have never had an issue like this before and tracked the cause down. There was a very small percentage bad but they wanted to err on the side of caution and just rerun all remaining units. I applaud them for that. I can assure you I am as disappointed as you are that there is even one issue. It sucks when there is the wait and when the investment is a larger one such as this. I understand and appreciate that. But we have worked extremely hard to ensure anyone who has any issue is taken care of and will continue to do so. I am just providing information that I received just prior to my post period. I don't make an extra dime per year if 10 or 10,000 True Astonishments sell. I AM very proud of this as I worked with Paul and his team on this and we all gave it 100%. But I do not make a cent off of it. When any pertinent information has come up Jason or myself have tried to impart that to let people know what is going on as we have been working directly with the producer Paul Harris. I am glad people are enjoying this. I am still going through and working on material. BTW... if you want a list of the cookies just PM me after Feb. 24th. I am away and out of touch until the 24th or 25th as I will be in Blackpool. kissdadookie you hit the nail on the head.

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On 2009-02-16 13:02, Axelchen wrote:
Hi Aleksi (nakemiin(?))!

i´m still waiting,too...in germany, part of the western-world!
let´s wait together
greetings!
Axel


Hallo Axel!

Nice to make new friends Smile I hope we receive our sets soon!

Btw. "Näkemiin" means "see you soon" or "Auf Wiedersehen"
and "Hei" means "Hi" or "Hallo"

-Aleksi
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Number #81 ^__^
Yes, I finally got it
I watched the first 2 discs last night, and I have to agree with everybody who loves the material on this set. It's amazing and I cannot wait to try some of the wonderful things explained it it. I had a big child smile while watching Big Tiny.
It's exactly the kind of effect I want to perform as soon as I have the chance.
And I still have 7 more discs to watch, all the goodies, and a lot of time to re-watch all of them to discover all the subtelties and PH suggestions I may skip at first view.

Dave
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On 2009-02-16 21:40, baou1986 wrote:
I just sells my set for $240,it doesn't woth the price.Too much hype on Café.
Too many people on Café doesn't write "real" review,just like a true astoinshment "fighter"


I'm not going to knock your english but what exactly is a true astonishment "fighter"?
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On 2009-02-17 02:59, Tim Trono wrote:
Lifeisgreat, sorry you felt my post was shady. It was just meant to give a heads up and nothing more. All of the problems are being taken care of immediately. Stuff happens... it's how you handle it that matters in my opinion. The duplicator just today took back all sets to trash all DVDs and rerun completely new ones so there will not be any problems as they have never had an issue like this before and tracked the cause down. There was a very small percentage bad but they wanted to err on the side of caution and just rerun all remaining units. I applaud them for that. I can assure you I am as disappointed as you are that there is even one issue. It sucks when there is the wait and when the investment is a larger one such as this. I understand and appreciate that. But we have worked extremely hard to ensure anyone who has any issue is taken care of and will continue to do so. I am just providing information that I received just prior to my post period. I don't make an extra dime per year if 10 or 10,000 True Astonishments sell. I AM very proud of this as I worked with Paul and his team on this and we all gave it 100%. But I do not make a cent off of it. When any pertinent information has come up Jason or myself have tried to impart that to let people know what is going on as we have been working directly with the producer Paul Harris. I am glad people are enjoying this. I am still going through and working on material. BTW... if you want a list of the cookies just PM me after Feb. 24th. I am away and out of touch until the 24th or 25th as I will be in Blackpool. kissdadookie you hit the nail on the head.

Tim


Tim, you are absolutely right. You guys have shown amazing customer service here and this set should cost far more than it's actually selling at. Seeing the price going up didn't surprise me in the least, other than the fact that it'll still be too low.

The ratio of positive feedback verses negative feedback is overwhelming, and that says a lot in an industry that seems filled to the brim with drama over every new release.

My hat is off to you all. TA is really a treasure trove of insight and AAA material for the real world! Kudos!
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On 2009-02-17 07:19, Roland78 wrote:
Number #81 ^__^
Yes, I finally got it
I watched the first 2 discs last night, and I have to agree with everybody who loves the material on this set. It's amazing and I cannot wait to try some of the wonderful things explained it it. I had a big child smile while watching Big Tiny.
It's exactly the kind of effect I want to perform as soon as I have the chance.
And I still have 7 more discs to watch, all the goodies, and a lot of time to re-watch all of them to discover all the subtleties and PH suggestions I may skip at first view.

Dave


Congratulations Dave! I have felt so bad for you over the last few weeks while you had to wait for your set. Glad you finally have it and are enjoying it. Set #81 is pretty good. Let me guess, you ordered on Dec. 10th right?
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If the price for the TA set increase wasn't announced beforehand, someone would have made comments that shady or covert intentions.

I think level headed folks have seen the disk issue handled quickly and professionally.
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the saddest are, "It might have been"

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On 2009-02-17 07:19, Roland78 wrote:
Number #81 ^__^
Yes, I finally got it
I watched the first 2 discs last night, and I have to agree with everybody who loves the material on this set. It's amazing and I cannot wait to try some of the wonderful things explained it it. I had a big child smile while watching Big Tiny.
It's exactly the kind of effect I want to perform as soon as I have the chance.
And I still have 7 more discs to watch, all the goodies, and a lot of time to re-watch all of them to discover all the subtelties and PH suggestions I may skip at first view.

Dave


Nice! Congrats! The wait is over and you got a coveted "double digit" box to boot! Smile
Good going!
Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft might win, by fearing to attempt. ~ Shakespeare
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On 2009-02-16 21:40, baou1986 wrote:
I just sells my set for $240,it doesn't woth the price.Too much hype on Café.
Too many people on Café doesn't write "real" review,just like a true astoinshment "fighter"


...

Speechless, not even want to mention those horrible typo... I believe this is called Chinglish (Chinese-English, a special term for Cantonese English writing style for those who cannot wrote proper English)

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I should chime in on Tim and Murphy's great customer service. I had a issue with my Branded a while back and that was dealt with swiftly as well as dealt with beyond the call of duty. They have been equally as helpful, if not more so, with my slight issue with TA this time around as well.

In regards to some of the "negative" feedback for TA, it really does show who out there actually performs for the lay audience and who doesn't. For those who have read Darwin Ortiz's Designing Miracles, there was a nice explanation of the difference perspectives between the lay audience and that of the magician. This is easily summed up as: what fools a magician doesn't neccessarily fool the lay. This is truly a little piece of strange as what is invisible to us is visible to the lay and what is blatant to us is not for the lay. This is partially because the lay have a more logical way of viewing things while we have a illogical way of viewing things. I mean, we HAVE to have somewhat of a illogical way of viewing things because what we want to present is supposed to be extraordinary and quite impossible at times. Sounds simple enough but just ponder on that a bit and you will soon realize that there's a lot of depth to the different perspectives and we often lose sight of it.
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On 2009-02-17 00:54, kissdadookie wrote:
In regards to palmtreemagic's post, isn't magic supposed to be about your audience?!? How can folks who perform close-up not find a overwhelming amount of world class material on the TA set? I think the bigger problem with TA is that so many of the effects are so strong that one may not wish to dilute it with anything before or after just one of these effects on TA.

If you're disappointed because there's really not that many new methods taught on TA or if you felt like the handling is explained a bit with the beginners in mind, then I think you're missing the point of a magic. It's not about the method and the handling, it's about the end result. This is something that TA demonstrates in depth. I do agree that there was a lot of hype before TA came out but then again there has been hype about a Paul Harris video set for years, it really was nothing new, only question everybody had in mind was when as well as hoping that it will deliver the goods. The when is now and the goods have been delivered in spades. Lot's of folks will probably find the effects ho hum but then again I'm sensing a LOT of folks don't perform all that often (family and friends do not really count by the way, unfortunate for many, but if you think about it, that's actually a blessing). Take Mac King's advice in one of the TA interviews, put in your "pilot hours" and you will then see the world in a different light.


What I meant was there are different types of magic effects and not everybody does magic for the same reason. Sort of how there are different genres of music, there are different types of magic presentations, and Paul Harris's style of "astonishment magic" may not be every performer.
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My comment was really trying to point out that TA wasn't really Paul Harris' take on magic but more of a exploration of what the magic community and market has been going further and further away from. It's not really "astonishment magic" as you have called it but more about magic with your audience in mind instead of the other way around. McBride and Burger touches on this by calling their spectators participants instead of spectators. Eric Mead really goes in depth with the meaning of magic with the third interview of his on the set. There's a interview with Gerard about how to present yourself and your material which clearly wasn't exactly how Paul Harris thought about magic but it's on the set because the set really was a exploration as well as astounding effects. TA is like a onion, there's a lot of different layers to it. It's not a try to sell as many as we can type of product and more like a labour of love which is very very very easy to tell and feel from watching the discs.

There's lots of effects to be learned, tweaked for ones own personal use, and many many many lessons in the construction of routines, presentations, and well, magic.
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Thanks Thales and Jay, cannot wait to discuss with you the effects of the set.
I would like to add my comment about the guy who sold it for 240$. Everybody can do whatever it wants and everybody has it's own tastes. But honestly, nobody can say that this whole set is not worth the money its sold for. 9 DVDs, a bag of props, and AMAZING routines... are you kidding when you say it's not worth 300 $ ???
Anyway... The world is awesome because it's varied Smile

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Hello everyone! Thank you all for the kind words. AH, but I Have an update for everyone. The EE cards are going in to revision AGAIN. So be prepared for version 1.3 (haha). I am been in contact with some key persons involved with TA, and I will be updating the TA cards with the "correct" font. THis should make them even more beautiful, and matching to your set.

I apoligize for making some of you print this 3 times, but I think when it is finished, you will want the newest version (1.3).

Please give me a little time to get this updated, and I will send it out to everyone that has already received it..., plus all those who are still asking for it.

Maybe the astonishment project will host the file on their website for anyone to download...

Thank you for being patient!

Posted: Feb 17, 2009 6:02pm
Oh yeah, if you need it in .pdf format, please be sure to let me know... Thanks Nathan Pain!!!
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9 discs for $300 equals about $33.33 a disc. NOT counting the props and BOX,

I think the average price of a Magic DVD is $35.
I have a few hundred DVD's and that is the New Price for most.
And some just have ONE trick on them.

Now who said this was not worth $300, or it costs too much?

LOL

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On 2009-02-17 20:23, Acecardician wrote:
9 discs for $300 equals about $33.33 a disc. NOT counting the props and BOX,

I think the average price of a Magic DVD is $35.
I have a few hundred DVD's and that is the New Price for most.
And some just have ONE trick on them.

Now who said this was not worth $300, or it costs too much?



When I first heard about the TA set I thought that it sounded a bit expensive, but after I got it and after going trough each dvd I seriously think its under priced.

Just the box and the packaging of the dvds and the gimmicks must have cost allot to produce, everything is of such a high quality. Also the material on them is just fantastic and there are allot of the effects that could have been released as single dvds for 35 dollars for each effect.
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For me, Bro Gilbert's performances are one of the great highlights of the TA set. I thought his account of how he got involved with this project, discussed on his Ellusionist podcast, was really interesting, and I was surprised that it didn't get discussed here more. So, I'll post here this link to his just uploaded interview on The Magic Newswire.

http://linkingpage.com/2009/02/17/mnw-93-bro-justin-gilbert/
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