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FILL--IPINESS
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Question is :

Did Damian credits Arthur Buckley ?




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.........if one can’t get beyond the provocative nature of Dustin’s criticism and instead chooses to wholly dismiss such criticism as a personal vendetta, etc., then the opportunity for learning is lost.

Clay, your observation regarding "the opportunity for learning lost" is an excellent one, and one that I must acknowledge as being to my personal detriment in this particular instance.
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A very clever guy,and a top notch mechanic who used to post in this forum,once said "to me you're all nuts".

Why spending all this words about credits ?

Because you magicians are always looking for fame and glory.

So,why not patenting a DL or a strike second ?
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On 2009-02-25 06:22, maturpia wrote:
A very clever guy,and a top notch mechanic who used to post in this forum,once said "to me you're all nuts".

Why spending all this words about credits ?



Because when you publish something it's ethical to give credits for something you got from others , next please ?


P.S. Clock discourse reminded a history of a thief that when accused of stealing a car from the cops he said : "You are wrong , I didn't steal from the cops , I stole from the pope" Smile



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a thief that when accused of stealing a car from the cops he said : "You are wrong , I didn't steal from the cops , I stole from the pope" Smile

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I think you need new writers Fill Smile

I understand you're here 'till Thursday.
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Dear Silverking,

Long time I didn't talk to you , how are you ?


p.s. didn't understand , can you elaborate


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I PM'd you Fill, it was just my lame attempt at a joke after your joke.
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I see Smile
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Because you magicians are always looking for fame and glory.

It's not about fame and glory; it's about respect. The people who complained weren't the people who were not credited. Some of them never even invented a trick.

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So,why not patenting a DL or a strike second ?

Because they can't be patented. Which is a good thing by the way. And patenting (financial) is not the same as giving credit (moral).
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On 2009-02-26 04:09, Enzo wrote:

It's not about fame and glory; it's about respect.



Points of view.
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^^^ Points of view, yes, and very distinct ones at that. Every "art" has its idiosyncracies. Based on (admittedly what little) I know about cheating with the pasteboards, it's an entirely different culture from magic, with entirely different goals - one to gain, the other to entertain - so it's not surprising to see that some in the gambling community express puzzlement over some of magic's mores.

The intersection of "advantage play" and card magic is, of course, in the methodology.
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I agree with Dustin Stinett.

Not because Fast Company isn't good. It's great. No problem there.

But I saw Shade last night, and it was just completely ridiculous. Not only were there string raises all over the place, but they weren't even playing table stakes. Seriously, you're going to take the deed to your ranch out of your pocket in the middle of a hand, and if your opponent has a smaller ranch you automatically win the pot? Do non-poker players understand how absurd that is? I guess not.

So anyway, because of that, I therefore conclude that Nieman unlawfully stole all the moves he teaches in Fast Company, and that Tony Giorgio, Dustin Stinett, and Richard Kaufman should be entitled to split all proceeds from its sale.

You don't think that makes sense? I guess it doesn't -- but trust me, it makes more sense than the poker scenes in Shade.
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Shade is only one great movie. Fast Company DVDs are great, and a lot of people do not care about credits.
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And a lot of people have never invented anything to be given credit for. The few that have should be given credit whether you care or not.
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Just watched shade again.. never seen fast company but shade is awfully entertaining. A real guy film I think.
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The director is quite familiar with table stakes, it makes for a more interesting and developed plot.
Nobody expects the spanish inquisition!!!!!



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Musta been the weekend for "Shade". I not only watched it again but bought a used copy from Blockbuster for 5 bucks!

I think the "fictitious" scenes tend to be creative for the paying/viewing audience (lay folk) not a handful of pretentious magicians and gambling buffs!

I think this was discussed earlier in this thread but I'm quite sure Jason, Damien and Paul et al might have some clue as to what could fly in a real game! THIS WAS HOLLYWOOD!

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Whoever resurrected this thread should be given a firm wedgie and paraded through Main Street with aforementioned firm wedgie in place...

The movie's fine, the DVDs fine, Jessica Alba is fine, now let's move on to a new thread without dredging this one up again...
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Could someone give me the credits for the pushoff stud second that they teach on dvd1 and the top stock strip control
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Could someone give me the credits for the pushoff stud second that they teach on dvd1 and the top stock strip control

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