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manal
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On 2010-07-15 16:04, mtpascoe wrote:
This trick goes back as far as Howard Thurston who use to use a "volunteer" from the audience. I'm sure the trick was old when Thurston did it. He once got in trouble for doing it in India because he chose a Hindu boy to do the trick with. Since eggs were considered unclean, the boy had to do penance.

I did this trick when I started to do magic as a kid. It was in the first book I got from the library, Hokus Pokus by Ib Permin. In the version he explains, you can't show your mouth empty each time. Must be a different method.

Also, this trick was done in the goofy movie Airplane. http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=1390


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Okay, here is what I know about this trick. Dick Stoner the famous Trade Show magician here in Fort Wayne, did the Golf Balls from Mouth for years in his Billiard Ball/Golf Ball manipulation routine. It was very funny and highlight of his routine. It takes a good French Drop and perfect timing with tons of practice. He performed this on himself in rapid succession.

Fast forward, I for some reason have been drawn to egg magic all my life and have been looking for unique effects with eggs. Why, because the audience "laughs out loud".

Abbott's Magic advertise the egg from mouth trick, the ad says you can show your mouth empty. So I invested the $7 several years ago for the Abbott gimmick. What I received was 'probably' the Abracadaba gimmick with Abbott's instructions. The gimmick is not made the correct color to show the mouth empty. It was bright red color. The inside of my, or anyones mouth, is not red but a dark flesh color. The gimmick will work, but I do not suggest showing the mouth empty with this gimmick and it would not add much to the illusion of producing eggs from a spectator's or your mouth.
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Hi Guys,

I am replying to wmhegbli's Jul 22, 2010 post.

Our gimmick IS made correctly. The side that the audience sees is FLESH colored, not red as he stated for the Abbott's gimmick he purchased. I am guessing they all they found in the correct size was a red ball and they are gimmicking and using that.

We had a custom double mold made for our gimmick. I think we are the first one to make this product properly. Our instructions were written by me - we do not copy others instructions.

Regarding the 3 guys here who went to purchase this and wanted nothing else - and since they didn't meet our $25 merchandise minimum, for that I apologize. I know that can be frustrating. We have had this same minimum since 1988 - we have never increased it. It is because our s/h does not cover all our fulfillment costs for smaller orders & smaller orders don't have the margin to cover what the s/h does not. Postage rates have increased more than 75% since 1996, yet we only increased them $1.00 in 14 years.

Our shipping is based on value, NOT weight - so it is an averaged amount. As an extreme case, someone ordering only linking rings for $19 which are heavy for their price residing in zone 8 costs us $16 in postage & fulfillment.

I am contacting those 3 magicians and offering to waive the minimum. If anyone else here would like to order only this trick, private message me here or use the email address provided for customer service at the bottom of our pages at abra4magic (dot com).

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What a very nice offer to make, Bob Bokor.
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Nice offer, Bob. I hope the "miffed" individuals continue to read this thread. I have used the Abracadbra gimmick for several years. As you say, it is flesh colored on one side and white on the other. If you can french drop, it makes the routine very easy. I have an egg dropper under my coat, and about half way through the routine I show both hands empty. This really fools the ones in the audience that are starting to catch on.

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Just received the Eggs from Mouth gimmick from UMSI. I was surprised as the gimmick is actually made of a flexible material. This is the best gimmick I have ever seen for this effect. The gimmick is actually egg color (white) and the inside is flesh color. It comes with a full page of instruction.

Some thought was used in designing this gimmick, as the flesh side actually has a ridge that covers the white edge of the shell. The flexibility of the material makes it a little more comfortable in the mouth.

I would recommend anyone wanting to put an effect of this nature in your show to consider this gimmick over others on the market.

I do suggest you find other items to order while placing an order. It did cost me $19.98 for the gimmick and $11.95 for postage, handling, and something called insurance. Making the total $31.43. On the package the postage cost was $1.22. So it was very expensive for this gimmick, but I think I will give it a go. I always wanted to try this effect on an audience.
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I don't know if the Airplane movie is the same, but we got a movie called "Flying High" with Leslie Nielsen where he performed this on a lady passenger in a plane.
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Yeah, it's the same movie. I guess in Australia and New Zealand it's retitled "Flying High". It kind of loses it's meaning because it's suppose to lampoon the silly Airplane disaster movies of the seventies called Airport and its sequels Airport 1975, Airport '77, and let's not forget, The Concorde ... Airport '79.
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I have never seen anyone do the Human Hen/Eggs From Mouth trick while talking between producing each egg. For me I think this will arouse suspicion from the audience as they will think "Why has she stopped talking?" - I think they will suspect there is something in the mouth because of this.

For this reason I have been working on a homemade version of this effect where I can talk, then cluck like a hen, then produce an egg, show its real, further dialogue, cluck, produce an egg and show its real, further dialogue, cluck, produce an egg and show its real, ad infinitum.

However after reading up on the USMI gimmick, which sounds larger than mine, I wondered whether I can talk while it is in place?
For me talking and joking is an essential part of my act, so the eggs from mouth trick is unusable if I cannot talk. Should I stick with my own homemade version or pay out to investigate the practicalities of the USMI egg gimmick? I read on the Magic Café Forums that the USMI gimmick is fairly well made.

Folks who have bought the USMI gimmick - please do you perform it silently, or with patter, or do you use a silent "human hen" assistant?
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On 2011-04-01 05:43, VE Day wrote:
I have never seen anyone do the Human Hen/Eggs From Mouth trick while talking between producing each egg. For me I think this will arouse suspicion from the audience as they will think "Why has she stopped talking?" - I think they will suspect there is something in the mouth because of this.

For this reason I have been working on a homemade version of this effect where I can talk, then cluck like a hen, then produce an egg, show its real, further dialogue, cluck, produce an egg and show its real, further dialogue, cluck, produce an egg and show its real, ad infinitum.

However after reading up on the USMI gimmick, which sounds larger than mine, I wondered whether I can talk while it is in place?
For me talking and joking is an essential part of my act, so the eggs from mouth trick is unusable if I cannot talk. Should I stick with my own homemade version or pay out to investigate the practicalities of the USMI egg gimmick? I read on the Magic Café Forums that the USMI gimmick is fairly well made.

Folks who have bought the USMI gimmick - please do you perform it silently, or with patter, or do you use a silent "human hen" assistant?


From your discription, all I read is that you are trying to disprove ideas of being accused of methods that has not been mentioned by the audience. Thus I feel you are trying to make the effect more important then the entertainment value of the effect. Not that attempting to be creative is not good, it is good to always stive to improve on a method.

Most performances of this type are done with another person. Although Dick Stoner does it in his Multiplying Golf Ball routine and it is funny and a mystery at the same time. It is fast and produces several balls from his mouth. Vito Lupo used sponge balls in his FISM winning act, he did it mime and silent. Dick Stoner does try to talk but a ball appears to be in the way, and it has to be removed. Acting is very important and the thought process should show on your face.

In the end you do not have to prove anything if the moves are done properly. The real proof of wheather you are performing it well is, 'Is your audience laughing there heads off?'
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Thanks for the reply Wmhegbli, but no I am not trying to disprove ideas of being accused of methods that has not been mentioned by the audience. I was merely trying to establish whether the USMI gimmick was similar to my own homemade version which allows me to patter, even have conversations with someone, and produce eggs from my mouth throughout, or whether the USMI gimmick can only be used by someone who cannot speak while it is in their mouth.

You appear to be telling me that the USMI gimmick does not allow the "Human Hen" to speak. I will therefore stick with my own homemade version in the meantime. Thank you for your advice.


I agree with you regarding the need for good face acting and judging the effect on whether the audience are laughing their heads off. The Human Hen/Eggs From Mouth is my all time favourite magic trick ever and one that is both bizarre, incredible and hilariously funny when done right. For me it can also have an even more fantastic surprise element if it can be done in the middle of conversation or patter. By being able to talk while the gimmick is in the mouth opens up huge new possibilities for this effect - the eggs can be produced from mouth mid-sentence and unexpectedly, the eggs can be produced from mouth as part of another routine (eg an Egg Bag, Egg Vase or Vanishing Egg Routine), eggs can be produced in mouth during dialogue with another character on stage. Of course none of these ideas are practical if the magician is unable to patter while the gimmick is in place.
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VE Day,

Eric LeClerc does balls from mouth while talking...Though he does use sponge balls very effectively and funnily and convincingly...Go to his website in Canada, for an example.
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People in this thread have mentioned that this gimmick will work we'll with eggs and ping pong balls. Will it work in conjunction with 2" balls?
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TONY~How big is your mouth?~!
Look back on this thread~ I hope you've noted that there is a "G". (That's what's in your mouth.)

As I started this thread, I made some notes...was going to mention Devant and Thurston, but somebody got there ahead of me! Good, you guys have done your homework. (Those who don't study history, are condemned to repeat it!)

Earl Edwards told me (50 years ago) that Calvert had a "committee" on stage and loaded and produced the SAME BALL on all of the men. (!!!)

Then, I was going to discuss the "G", but as Jay used to say: "That's already been said!"

I bought out what was left of the old OAKS MAGIC SHOP in Oshkosh, WI about 26 years ago. There was a carton of odds n ends including a bunch of the "G"s from pre-war Germany. And, yes, the reverse side was a dull RED!

This is another of those "seldom seen anymore" tricks. I seem to remember that Tom Ogden used it in his AMWAY act.
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