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ChrisPilsworth New user Ottawa, Ontario, Canada 74 Posts |
I know I've come to this discussion a bit late. I've got two performers that I've really enjoyed. Greg Frewin's award winning dove act was a real eye-opener when he won the IBM in Quebec City. Vito Lupo has great style and I've always enjoyed his work.
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Conradi New user 40 Posts |
Lance Burton is the best
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
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On 2010-11-26 23:42, ChristopherCool wrote: Ramon Galindo was the first manipulator to use colored doves. This was back in the 1950's, before James Cielen was born. No to detract from James' ability as a manipulator and an entertainer. He is top notch. Posted: Jan 2, 2011 10:31pm People generally don't think of this fellow as a manipulator, but he certainly is one of the best -- Johnny Thompson.
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Rainboguy Inner circle 1915 Posts |
Overall, in my personal opinion, the best manipulator I have ever seen is Norm Nielsen; Norm is in a league of his own.
A VERY close tie would be Lance Burton and Neil Foster. Any one of these three gentlemen would certainly be considered to be at the top of the list of classic stage manipulators of all time. As a side note, another less well-known and, I believe, very underestimated classic stage manipulator was Earl Ray Wilcox. Earl Ray's work with cards and billiard balls was outstanding. Like most, if not every magician I have known in my life, Norm, Earl Ray, Lance, and Neil Foster have been salt-of-the-earth guys...great to know, down to earth, and friendly souls. I miss Earl Ray Wilcox and Neil Foster...may they rest in peace. |
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Anatole Inner circle 1912 Posts |
Here's a nice youtube clip of Earl Ray Wilcox's act:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTLSAL26SOM -----Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
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LaurensMalter Regular user Belgium 131 Posts |
I'm not a big fan of very active Card Manipulation, but Jeff McBride sells it SOOO GOOD!
Dove Magic, I'd go with Lance Burton (huh, who would've guessed?). The best bird act in Europe is definately Marko Karvo, seen him 3 times in August and it's amazing! His birds are extremely well trained, the video doesn't really confirm that, but then again, this was a 1 time gig, so he had no time to have the birds get used to the area: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oezdfqlup4E Not seen in this video: he has a tiny little bird, don't know exactly wich kind, he makes it appear from an egg, then produces a small cage and the bird walks from one hand, past his neck, to the other hand into the cage. BEAUTHIFUL! The cockatoo and macaw finale is the best I've ever seen in a bird routine, very impressive! After his performance here in Belgium I've had a beer with him afterwords and he's a really nice guy, very calm and relaxed. Another good manipulation act is the Parasol routine by Ernesto Planas, very entertaining and he brings it VERY WELL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzPbwUf_KPU |
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Rainboguy Inner circle 1915 Posts |
Anatole:
Thank you for posting the YouTube link above to Earl Ray Wilcox's act as seen in Colon at Abbott's Get-Together many years ago. I would encourage those magicians who have never had the pleasure of seeing the late great Earl Ray Wilcox perform his classic stage manipulations to click the link above and watch the YouTube Video. |
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Nick W Special user 515 Posts |
I find it entertaining that the people who made the movie The Prestige wanted to hire a magician for the lead role....but did not because they couldn't find a magician who is a good actor.....so they hired a good actor and taught him a french drop!
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Anatole Inner circle 1912 Posts |
Nick W. wrote: "I find it entertaining that the people who made the movie The Prestige wanted to hire a magician for the lead role....but did not because they couldn't find a magician who is a good actor.....so they hired a good actor and taught him a french drop!"
Did the producers really think first of hiring a magician... or is that conjecture? Robert-Houdin's famous quote to the contrary, magicians are by and large not very good actors. There are some exceptions to the rule, but I qualified my statement with the phrase "by and large" to suggest that there may be a few (very few) magicians who are competent actors. Channing Pollock in his prime would have been good in "The Prestige." His film "Judex" in 1963 was included in the select group of _Fifty Classic French Films, 1912-1982 : A Pictorial Record_ by Anthony Slide. Out of all the films made in France in that 70 year period, "Judex" made the cut as one of the top 50. I'd say that's quite an accolade. "Judex" was actually Channing's fourth European film, the previous three being "The Sea Musketeers" (in 1962), "The Red Sheik" (1963), and "Rocambole" (also 1963). However, there aren't many magicians alive today who have cinematic acting skills comparable to Channing Pollock. I did think David Copperfield did a good acting job in "Terror Train," but I think he realized that his destiny lay in elevating magic as an art form. Otherwise his acting career might have progressed similarly to that of his co-star in "Terror Train"--Jamie Lee Curtis. The magician from whom I took my Magic Café name--Anatole--is the main character in a 1962 episode of "The Dick Powell Theater." Curt Jurgens played the title role in "The Great Anatole" and did an outstanding job executing a few magic tricks including a most impressive film-to-life illusion. Dana Wynter was also the quintessential magician's assistant in that teleplay, classily dressed in an evening gown rather than the ubiquitous tights. There are probably magicians performing today who would have done a good job in "The Prestige" or "The Illusionist." But being unknown to the public-at-large, casting them in a high-profile movie role would have been a risk the producers might not have been willing to make. ----- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
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On 2009-02-21 15:52, illusions & reality wrote: Not when I saw him. His color changing tie dropped on the floor. He dropped billiard balls. His "appearance" onto a bed revealed either him or his assistant crawling out from under the bed. Can't remember which. I'm sure there was more. During the act, people's cell phones were lighting up in the audience.. texting their pals about how awful the act was. Ask Michael Close. He was there.
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Stucky Inner circle I'm Batman! 1355 Posts |
Many may not have seen him do it, but Kozak does some killer manip in his show. I learned a lot from just watching him perform.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
I don't know what the MacMillen gimmick is... but perhaps a comment my father made will add a historic note. My dad worked on a show with Arnold DeBiere, and he told me that he had some kind of spring device that shot a billiard ball out from his jacket, secretly, into his hand.
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bojanbarisic Elite user Croatia 462 Posts |
Arnold De Biere`s Billiard Ball production fake was described by Will Goldston in Tricks of the Masters. Fake was used to produce 5-6 balls. Ron McMillan`s ball holder (holdout) is used to produce one ball. Ron described it in his book Symphony of the Spheres. I watched Ron`s act many times and I don`t remember he ever used that holder. He explained his manipulation act on a video tape recorded in Portugal and that is the video that Levent mentioned in an earlier post.
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dahih beik Special user palestine 817 Posts |
I have the video its cool, this man has the devils hands.
Posted: Sep 9, 2011 1:25pm There is no such gimmick discribed in the video nither in the book. |
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bojanbarisic Elite user Croatia 462 Posts |
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On 2011-09-09 13:24, dahih beik wrote: What book did you check out ? It is not in his Modern Art of Coin Magic. You can buy his Billiard ball book for 9$ at Library.com |
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Anatole Inner circle 1912 Posts |
Bojan,
You wrote: "You can buy his Billiard ball book for 9$ at Library.com" Can you provide the author and title of the book you're referencing as well as the link at the lybrary.com site for the billiard ball book? Thanks! ----- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
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dahih beik Special user palestine 817 Posts |
You are right bojan
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bojanbarisic Elite user Croatia 462 Posts |
Here it is Amado,
http://www.lybrary.com/macmillans-sympho......690.html |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
I have that book in front of me. It is a knuckle buster! Tannen use to sell the gimmicks for the routine, way back when. After one of their famous fires, they no longer offered them for sale. They had at least 3 fires, several items I purchased still had smoke damage on them. Wish I would have purchased at least 1 set of 3 of the gimmicks, so I know how they operated and looked.
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sickmagic Special user 528 Posts |
I am shocked and in a way sad that not one peraon mentioned the o ly two tine lions head winner james dimmare. His dove act ia the best I've ever seen period. The work and creativity in it is unmatched. Also which not many oeople have aeen is his salt pour and new manip act. His alt pour is amazing and as cloae to real magic with salt that I have seen. The dove act as made him many awards over the years and on top of that he was close friends with channing.
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