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I have a trick and I need to learn how to do the Charlier shuffle. Has anyone heard of this shuffle? All I know is that all the cards remain in the same place but it looks like you are shuffling. Please tell me how to do it???
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Not quite, but close.

A Charlier or "Slop" Shuffle, leaves the cards in sequence, but basically gives the cards a single cut.

The technique should be in most books that teach card sleights.
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Expert Card Technique by Hugard, Page 412

Probably some other places as well
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http://www.kartentricks.de
Stufe 4

Unfortunatly a German site.

But try it.

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the Charlier shuffle or Haymow shuffle is in the RRTCM. probably other places as well
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Also on Daryl's Encylopedia of Card Sleights Volume #2
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Honestly I just used the YouTube video weepinwil just posted above to learn it and now I practice it multiple times a day at work, sloppy as hell but I will get it eventually. Its not a hard shuffle at all, just want to learn to do it faster and cleaner personally.
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I stopped using the Charlier Shuffle decades ago when I started using my UTILITY MIXER. Probably one of the best utility moves I've come up with - and which I've taught in my last few books.
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On Feb 28, 2019, CGould wrote:
Its not a hard shuffle at all, just want to learn to do it faster and cleaner personally.


The Charlie is one of those shuffles that can benefit from not looking clean, for what it's worth. Make it messier than a messy thing.
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On Feb 28, 2019, CGould wrote:
Its not a hard shuffle at all, just want to learn to do it faster and cleaner personally.


The Charlie is one of those shuffles that can benefit from not looking clean, for what it's worth. Make it messier than a messy thing.


I can see that actually, Thanks!
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No problem. If you're curious at all, in the signature below is a link to JACK. There's a brief part in there on this shuffle. It's nothing special, just a contrast between Hugard and Braue's views on the move and Erdnase's, with some extra stuff thrown in. Nothing new on the move itself, just on the context of it.
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I will definitely be checking that out, thank you!
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Patrick Page's wonderful book Magic Page by Page has a section on the Charlier shuffle. I'd have preferred more pictures, but the text description is excellent, as is most of what he wrote.

I can't comment on more than The Memory Book by Mr. Lorayne, having not bought any of his other work after getting that one, but I will say that Page's work is definitely among the good stuff.

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How can you "really" discuss card magic in general if you don't have any of my books on the subject? My Utility Mixer is much, much, better than the Charlier
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On Mar 3, 2019, Harry Lorayne wrote:
[…] How can you "really" discuss card magic in general if you don't have any of my books on the subject? […]


The bibliography on card magic is close to infinite.
So much "good stuff" has been written by so many magicians and so it is absolutely possible to do good/great card magic without ever having read one single word published by you.


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I really, really, feel that with over EIGHTY YEARS of experience with card magic - and after writing about FORTY books on the subject (many think - at least have said/written - that my books are among the best of the best on the subject) - I have as much right to my opinion on anything having to do with card magic as you do or as Woolery does - IF NOT MUCH, much, MORE.
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Harry, I never said your contributions are not good stuff. I do believe that Patrick Page's long and indisputable career in magic qualify him to be able to also write good stuff. I only addressed the OP's question of where to find material on one particular move.

I didn't say you don't write good stuff. But I will say that you are not the only one who wrote good stuff. And I have not descended into personal attacks or insults by saying that someone who actually used the Charlier Shuffle (as you have stated you do not) might have something valuable to say on the subject.


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Harry is a terrific writer and I shall leave it at that. With regard to the Charlier shuffle the best use of it is with a very small packet. I use it often for that purpose. For a full deck there are plenty of other methods available.
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On Mar 5, 2019, Stewart wrote:
Harry is a terrific writer and I shall leave it at that. With regard to the Charlier shuffle the best use of it is with a very small packet. I use it often for that purpose. For a full deck there are plenty of other methods available.


I currently only practice it with about half a deck, which is all that's required for the effect I am using it for. What methods work for a full deck, or can I even ask that here?
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